You be the Judge

I'm really surprised this rough ole goat is bringing this kind of coin.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971...65827425315294&_qi=RTM1303754&forcev4exp=true

 

Judges have a broad following and so do Pontiacs in general. A 4 speed, 455 Judge with the original carb is a big deal in Pontiac land. But you could buy one done cheaper than what it will take to bring this one back.

 

Ahhh, if only our Buicks brought that kind of money. We'd all be rich.

If I had to bet, someone is going to take that VIN and stick it on a clean LeMans.

 

If our Buicks brought this kind of money we would HAVE to be rich to afford one.....

 

I bet you're wrong. 1971 Judge people are a diehard breed who know how to respect the integrity of their cars. They are also perhaps the fastest low-compression muscle car built until the advent of the Super Duty.

 

Only 357 Hardtop Judges and 17 Judge Convertibles in 71 - Add that with the GTO following = $

Terry

 

why does everything look to be rusted away but the air cleaner looks brand new?

 

Im not.

Pretty much every part it needs is reproduced, having the numbers matching drive-train is the kicker.

A factory 4spd '71 Judge with all numbers matching drive-train with build sheet is a hot item in any condition.

 

In '92 I sold a '65 Tempest convertible to pay the mortgage for a couple of months (I had been laid off my job). The guy buying it had the cheek to tell me he was going to "GTO" it. At the time, I knew that the VIN told the story. Now, I know that the VIN could have been changed to make it a GTO. Well, the crime is not mine. I never have, and would never do that.

 

About 10 years ago a friend of mine sold a 70 RAIV Judge, Polar white with black interior 4 speed car as a rolling body, no drive train, for about that much. Other than the VIN and documentation that PHS provides it was some sheet metal and a rear end. (It was a restorable car, and I figure if something is missing, well that's better than not missing but incorrect when you're paying restoration labor.)
Patrick

 

"the car is originally and still is quezal gold (code 53)" Still is !! Where?? :laugh:

 

Lol that's awesome search up 71 skylarks on eBay there's a skylark burned to the ground barn yard goner for 1500. There's a few gs cars sporting some decent numbers too...I actually pretty surprised to see some of the $$ tags our cars are pulling, our times a coming boys

 

Maybe the rest of the car was below the waterline?

I didn't realize the '71 was so beloved in the Poncho circles.

 

I have a friend who has a twin to that car but without the vinyl top. The car has 46,000 miles on it with one nice repaint but otherwise original.

On a side note, back in `97 I restored a `70 Judge RAIV, automatic convertible, 1 of 6. It was rough but complete and the guy paid $5,000 for it around 1990. Since the restoration he constantly has people trying to buy it. The current offer is $800,000 but it's not for sale. Yup, the Pontiac following is very strong.

 

Nobody can argue with the fact that it is a hot item, the bidding speaks volumes about that.

I'm not sure this car is a candidate for restoration though. The pictures are, as is often the case, horrible, but I can still see how much rust is in the windshield post and in the floor shot it appears you are looking right thru the driver's rocker as well. If there is this much rust visible in such poor photos, how much other rust are you going to find with a screwdriver and a flashlight? ou:

The seller's bold statement, "although very savable, the cowl and dash has rusty as well."

 

The photo of the engine appears to have the factory aluminum intake that would be correct for an HO 455. It would be nice to see a pic of the exhaust manifolds to be sure. If it's a real, live (well, dead) round port, H.O. 4-speed Judge, it's the Pontiac cousin to a Stage1 4-speed GSX. That would explain a lot about the bidding frenzy.

 

The VIN would not suggest it's a GTO - it shared the same VIN as a LeMans.

 

I don't mean to be a smarta$$ but I think he meant for the `65 model year, which would have been the same for a Lemans/GTO.

 

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Can we call this a misunderstanding and move on???????

orrrrrr we may have to reset the clock on this thread.

OKay--- now that this request for voluntary compliance did not work, the moderators are going to take some involuntary action. Please move forward in a positve way with the balance of this thread.

 

Would a Stage 1, numbers matching, four speed, GSX with documentation and in the same condition bring similar money? I think it would, and I wouldn't be surprised. I guess that's my built in Buick bias.