70 bench seat headrest adjuster bezels, plastic headrest covers (underside)

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  1. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    My upholstery guy told me these parts are toast on the 70 bench seat I gave to him.

    I am looking for a chrome set of bezels for the headrest adjuster. Parts place lists a chrome pair new, but the holes don't look like they're in the right spots in the photo. I see a couple pairs on ebay but I don't want to do a half-assed job with chrome paint to make them look decent.

    Also, the undersides of the headrests have that plastic shield on them. They're all brittle and crumbling. Bucket seat pieces are different.

    I'll post photos from my phone here...
     
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    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

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  4. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    I think I have a green pair and brown pair of bench headrest adjusters. They are not chrome. Maybe mine are 71 and 72? Are 1970 Chrome?
     
  5. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Well, to be honest I don’t know. Upholstery guy said they’re supposed to be. Anyone know for sure?
     
  6. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Yes, 70 are chrome here's a picture of my 70 stage one headrests bench seat armrest custom interior. IMG_4008.JPG
     
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  7. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    That’s weird. I have had plenty of 1970,and I don’t remember any of them being chrome. Was it possibly part of the deluxe interior option? I don’t think it would be,but you never know.
     
  8. Duane

    Duane Member

    Adam,
    From what I remember,
    The 70 Bench Seat Headrest "under trim pieces" are molded for a 1970, and are a 1 year only thing. Also if I remember correctly the 71-72 pieces are a thin die-cut piece of plastic.

    I don't think the 70 pieces are reproduced, so your best bet is to get a set of nice used black ones and paint them white. The black ones do not disintegrate like the other colors do, so they are the best candidates to paint.

    If you don't think the repro lock assemblies will work you can send the original covers out to get plated. There is a process out there that uses a water-based system to plate chrome, (actually silver), on the parts. If your original covers are damaged/cracked I probably have some nice 71-72 pieces that you could plate. I should also have all the hardware for the seats if you find something broken or damaged.

    Also, if you need the chrome seat adjuster knobs for the seat tracks Ames performance sells them. I also think they sell the chrome buttons that attach the seat tops to the bottoms.
    Duane
     
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  9. Duane

    Duane Member

    Yes for 1970, I believe the deluxe/custom interiors would have received the chrome headrest adjusters.
    Duane
     
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  10. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Brian I get confused also with the interior combinations the deluxe interior for 70 is the standard interior and the custom is the top line with the waffle inserts in the seats which this car has.
     
  11. Duane

    Duane Member

    For 1970 A-body GS's,
    The Standard interior is all smooth grain (Madrid Grain) vinyl. The inserts have some widely spaced vertical lines sewn into them, and the rear seat has an extruded wide plastic strip sewn into it.
    This interior would only have been available in a front bench with no armrest configuration, and was only available in the coupe models.
    These cars also came with the short door panel armrests, a single dome light in the headliner, and had no carpet on the kick panels.

    The Deluxe/Custom interiors could have come in 3 different configurations, Bucket, Bench no armrest, and Bench with armrest. They were available in both coupe & convertible, and came with the "Waffle" Grained inserts. They also had the chrome pieces on the outward facing sides of the front seat tops.
    These cars also came with the long door panel armrests, no dome light in the headliner, courtesy lights in the rear sail panels & under the dash, and had carpet on the kick panels.

    The reason I call them Deluxe/Custom interiors is because some literature calls them Custom, while other info calls them Deluxe.
    Duane
     
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  12. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks Duane, for the interior clarification.
     
  13. Duane

    Duane Member

    Yeah,
    It gets kind of crazy trying to remember all the little differences. Like I just remembered that on the 70 standard interiors there is no thin chrome strip in the short armrests, but the longer deluxe/custom interior armrests have them.

    Then you get the 71-72 interiors and they are different yet.
    Duane
     
  14. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    I ordered new covers for my stage one through legendary I kept calling The interior deluxe they said it wasn't deluxe it was custom. Lol. In fact they're still in quarantine at legendary they were just getting ready to ship them out back in March when New York State shut down.
     
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  15. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    The 121(Blue)/124(Sandalwood)/128(Black) Coupe Straight Bench with the non-waffle inserts/door panels & different GS emblems/Dome light,, etc.. is what you're referring to as the "Standard" interior, correct? I wasn't aware they came with short armrests (my "128" car had no interior when I got it) but unlike '71-72 those didn't have the chrome strip? If so I'd take a very nice set of short black '70 (68-69 same?) armrests if anyone has them and I have a very nice set of long black ones to sell.

    What your referring to as the the Deluxe/Custom interior would be the Vinly Notchback (Bench w/armrest) or buckets and would have the waffle material for the seats and door panels, sail panel lights, etc. correct?

    I don't see any option/interior code (at least on a '70 GS - I Don't know of about on a Skylark) for a straight (no armrest) bench seat with the waffle material and all the other deluxe/custom features. In other words it seems like there were only 3 basic configurations, not 4 as you indicated. What am I missing?
     

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  16. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    Hmmm...still learning here. I have a thought. There is a rub-on chrome that modelers and hobbyists use to do detail stuff. It's appearance is pretty good in my opinion for a part that's not going to be touched often. I don't know how wide you can buy it. There's also an excellent vacuum plater in MA. The problem is they will only work through Instrument Specialties, they have an agreement. But it is great plating, but pricey.
     
  17. Duane

    Duane Member

    Buick also offered a 158 (Black) & 154 (Sandalwood) Deluxe/Custom front bench no armrest interior. It may not have been available on a GS but might have been from a Buick Custom. Either way I made a bunch of these when I had my upholstery business.

    The trim codes work like this, the first 2 numbers designate the design, and the last number was the color, so a 121 would be a 12- Standard front Bench with no armrest and the --1 designated it as Blue.

    As far as the Standard GS interiors 121, 124, 128, I had a tu-tone Blue (121) Stage 1 4-speed car. It had the short armrests (with NO chrome strips), no carpet on the kick panels, and a single dome light. The seats had no chrome strip down the sides, but had small plastic covers at the bottom to cover up the steel framework, and had a large silver fastener that went thru the seat frame arm and pushed into the plastic piece to hold it on. (Like you see on a Chevelle.)

    What I don't remember was if the short armrests had the chrome escutcheon plate between the door panel and the armrest or not. (I am thinking not) The doors without the chrome plates used shorter screws to hold the armrests on. Maybe someone has a pic of a standard interior door.
    Duane
     
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  18. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    For some reason black an sandalwood armrest bench seats weren't available in a convertible for 70 through 71 GS/Skylark.
     
  19. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Great info - Thanks. Since posting I looked at the '70 Color and Trim book and sure enough, it shows what you said (straight bench w/waffle) in both a Skylark and a GS (I also realize marketing & engineering don't always communicate). I just don't see how you ordered that on a GS. Interestingly, the page that would give the interior codes for this in a GS is blank so hmmm.

    It does show the chrome strip on the short armrest with the "Standard" GS interior (and to confuse things even more yet another variation of vinyl on a Skylark). Of course it's possible (probable?) your car got the "wrong" blue armrests w/o the chrome strip.

    Here's a link to the Color and Trim Book for whoever doesn't have one (go the home page and there's LOTS of this info for all years - I cannot recall who put this together - They're a member here, but great resource):

    https://www.gransportstage1.com/buick-sales-literature/1970-buick-color-trim/
     
  20. Duane

    Duane Member

    "I just don't see how you ordered that on a GS."

    Dano,
    There is another thing you need to consider, you posted a pic of the 1970 Wholesale Car Order Form, but it is Revision #1 (Dated Nov. 1969). There was also the Original form, with no revision number that would have been used for the initial production run. That one might have different interior codes available.

    Usually if the codes changed the Engineers revised the front pages in the Assembly Manuals to show all this. That is why I often ask people when their car was built, as it can really make a difference with availability.

    I know they revised a bunch of pages when they added the mid-year production GSX info in 70.

    There were so many changes made in the 72 model year, that by the end of the year almost all of the pages were revised.
    Going to bed now.
    Duane
     
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