CONTROL ARM BRACES: Don't leave home without'em

Discussion in 'Race car chassis tech' started by Gary Bohannon, May 13, 2005.

  1. Gary Bohannon

    Gary Bohannon Well-Known Member

    I've read some controversy about these braces that tie the upper front and lower front of the control arms together.
    If you have slicks and enough torque and/or a stick shift tranny, you're at great risk of bending or ripping the upper cross member. My friend destroyed his 389 Tempest (1967) with a near stock engine and 4-speed stick on the first run after installing the engine. He cried, then junked the body.

    You may have pulled your pinion angle out of whack allready if you have been racing without them.
    Put them on. You won't loose any ET, you'll just save a crossmember!!


    After installation,tighten the big bolts back together with the normal weight on the tires or you may rip your control arm bushings apart later.
     
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  2. kirkm

    kirkm Member

    control arm braces

    Gary thanks for the info. on this subject of braces.I also think they are worth installing,some will disagree - ???? kirkm :Do No:
     
  3. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Gary, you're right gotta have them.
    I remember watching a crazy guy in a primered 68 Chevelle big block with nitrous trying to get into the 9s at Mason Dixon Dragway in MD. He said he was getting alot of chassis twist. I looked under there and no braces. I told him all big block cars and 4 spds had them for good reason.
    He said there was no need with a roll bar.
    A couple passes later he got his 9.98 pass (smokin on top end), then the next pass he stuffed it into the wall.
    I crawled under the trailer (dumb thing to do!) and saw one front end of the lower control arm mushed into the floorpan. The fact that the car was tied together with the rollbar probably saved it from being worse.

    Bruce
     
  4. daward

    daward Measure twice, cut once.

    I managed to rip my upper support with the baby 300 motor in my '66 Skylark. At the time I only had a TH350, 2200 stall and a HEAVY foot :Brow:

    I made it a point to fix my weak spot and immediately go with a set of YearOne stamped steel braces... :pp
     
  5. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    Cheap insurance. Even the fancy Edelbrocks are only a $100.
     
  6. 70455ht

    70455ht Well-Known Member

    Any one have a pic of these braces installed - I am curious as to what they look like!
     
  7. 71 PREDATOR

    71 PREDATOR 800+hp 436 STROKER

    thanks for the info!

    hay thanks for the info. i just ordered mine from summit racing
    thay are hotchkis. part number hss-1402 on page 203. if you want to see what they look like go to summitracing.com and put in the part number.
    :beer
     
  8. SharpSabre455

    SharpSabre455 Sloan says "It's Rare!"

    If possible, can someone post some pics? Thanks!

    Paul
     
  9. bob g

    bob g Well-Known Member

    bracing

    dont know whats out there but heres how we do stock suspended cars :)
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    this is how we are doing my 72 :) bob
     
  10. jimmy

    jimmy Low-Tech Dinosaur

    Can you share some more pictures of your set up? It sure looks nice.

    What times are looking for out of your car?
     
  11. Gary Bohannon

    Gary Bohannon Well-Known Member

    Something is missing

    The above pictures show how the LOWER control arms are reinforced to absorb the PUSH, but the photos don' show the upper crossmember and control arm attach points where the PULL problem is.

    The lower arms PUSH on the frame.
    The upper arms PULL on the crossmember.

    By attaching braces between the front bolts of the lower and upper control arms, the upper arms cannot pull the crossmember rearward because all the PULL is transfered through the braces to the frame where the lower arms attatch.
     
  12. bob g

    bob g Well-Known Member

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    well no you are wrong the two next to the lower mounts run to upper bar mounts ,look at picts again,you can see the area there going to. ,plus what you cant see in the area where the upper crossmember and chassis meet is all welded,and inside the mounting area of the arms are more cross pieces.,and when done the area in the front arm will be boxed,
    also in the high powered cars the bottom mt is the one that gets the most damage,as the arms are trying to drive the car foward they are pushing on the lower mt,we see more lower arms driven to the floor pans than upper arm/crossmember damage. :3gears: bob
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2005
  13. bob g

    bob g Well-Known Member

    as we build i will post,heres a few of trunk,car has room now for 30x13.5 tire

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    starting on cage this week
    building it to be able to 25.5 it easier later right now not to fast mid to high 9,s :) bob
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2005
  14. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Interesting read....
     
  15. Gary Bohannon

    Gary Bohannon Well-Known Member

    1. The upper control arm pulls on the crossmember. You just read about a 300 engine in a 66 Skylark and the damage it did.

    2. The lower control arms push on the frame mount . You just read about a Big Block on nitrous breaking that mount.

    3. With most cars # 1(upper) is in the junkyard long before getting to # 2(lower)
     
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  16. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I have no idea what is being discussed here. I never heard of upper or lower control arm braces, I've heard of controls arms.....

    How come the factory never installed them if they are so crucial to have? Sounds like another thing to worry about that might not be worth worrying about for 99 percent of us who race once a year and drive the car for pleasure here and there.
     
  17. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    It is a brace between the front bolts of upper and lower rear control arms.

    YES, the factory used them but only on big block cars or small blocks with 4 speeds. They were needed when new and even more so now that the frames etc are 40 years old.
     
  18. kick71

    kick71 Mike

    Just had these installed when the new 4spd and BBB went in my car. Used UMI tubular braces. Very nice product. The factory ones are stamped steel. My brother has them factory on his 69' GTO 4spd.
     
  19. buickjunkie

    buickjunkie Well-Known Member

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  20. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    I hear these interfere with exhaust?
    if they indeed do, someone post up the one least likely to do so

    btw if you all want to be technical...they're not rear control arms...but Trailing arms...control arms go in the front :laugh:
     

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