Cooling issue on idle; waterpump(?) combo(?)

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by srb, Oct 30, 2022.

  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, so share:D Make and part number? Or application?
     
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  2. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Many decades ago (in a different world), I had a parts man in Cambridge Massachusetts, that was a genius at crossing parts, He had a bunch of books, and you had to give him a moment, but he would produce unbelievable crosses that worked 100%.
     
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  3. thegr8david

    thegr8david Active Member

    Ok Larry I can get you the make and part number when I get home tonight. It's sitting on my bench.
    I may be able to look it up to see what application it is used for, I'll have to see what my search reveals.
     
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  4. thegr8david

    thegr8david Active Member

    Here are the photo's I have of the thermostat I picked up.
    I think I got the photo's uploaded correctly.
     

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  5. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    www.napaonline.com lists that thermostat as fitting various Mopar vehicles from 1998 to 2010. Made by MotoRad in Israel.

    https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/THM378190?impressionRank=1






    Earlier today, I replaced the thermostat on my '88 K1500. The previous (195) thermostat wouldn't let the engine get above 160, and it took forever to get that warm. I put in a CarQuest 205 thermostat that didn't say "MotoRad" on the box, but did say "Made in Israel". So I guess I got a MotoRad, too.
     
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  6. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

    Well, the new pump is installed. I hope it won't leak. The thread of the upper big bolt on the passenger site (which goes into the cooling jacket) is almost worn out... can tighten it, but not very much. So I used Hylomar on both sides of the gasket. I'll let it cure and test it tomorrow.
     

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  7. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    You'd have been better-off to have repaired the damaged thread while it was apart.
     
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  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The threads for the long bolts are in the block. To fix that requires timing cover removal, a much bigger job.
     
  9. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    If the bolts just have no thread on them, replacing the bolts or cleaning, building them up and recutting new thread on them might improve the situation without removing the timing case.
     
  10. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

    Yes, I really don't want to do that, unless it is the only option left.

    The tip of the bolt is very questionable -thinner also - and the new pump is also thicker. When I insert the bolt there is only 1/8th of an inch travel possible, so it doesn't engage far (enough) in the thread, so unfortunately it leaks. Whereas the old pump didn't.

    What size bolt is needed there? When I measure the total length of the bolt it is 118 mm; that is 4.65". What strange length is that? I'm actually contemplating to buy a threaded rod and fasten the pump with a nut.
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    If the block threads are OK, yes, maybe a threaded stud with hex socket?
     
  12. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

  13. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

    I'll buy something in Europe. But that's meh also. You guys can buy these things in hardware stores, but we have only metric here. So I have to order it specially on the interwebs...
     
  14. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    What about these guys:

    https://boltport.com/supply-region/netherlands/

    I would see what Todd can do also. He's an excellent guy to deal with and might have way to ship those?

    If you need to buy a bolt that's too long and cut it down that is another possibility...
     
  15. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

  16. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Take a screwdriver or a straight piece of small rod and measure how deep the hole is and get a bolt close to that. You could even use several washers to shim the bolt if need be. That way you might get to some virgin threads.
     
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  17. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

    Other question, how much coolant should be added? I have no overflow tank. Should I just top it? Will it automatically spill out what is too much? - that always happened to me.
     
  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Without a recovery tank, add coolant to a level 1" below the radiator neck. There is no reason you can't add a tank.
     
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  19. srb

    srb Well-Known Member

    Thank you. Yes I know, I've seen the bulletin. Might actually do that.
     
  20. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Many radiators--intended for use without a recovery tank--have an embossed "Full" level stamped into the tank by the rad cap.
     
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