ford 1.7 roller rockers r&d

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  1. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    TA_1309.jpg Hard to see on the steel rockers but Sealed Power lists them as Left and Right. TA rollers are offset too. Pushrods are closer together than valve stems.
     
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  2. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    Looks like V6 from T&D are offset too. May be able to split the difference and be fine with no offset?

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  3. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

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  4. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    Sean, Yeah, worth their weight in gold! That's why we are looking for an inexpensive alternative!
     
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  5. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Yep, splitting diff will crowd the pushrod hole some but that could be clearanced. 5/16"p/rd's would be better than trying 3/8".
     
  6. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Well then, that kit relocates the roller tip to be centered on valve stem, so that moves p/r over closer to one side of hole in head anyway. Should be just fine without any rocker offset then?
    John will find out!
     
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  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    The pushrod holes are larger on the alum heads I would imagine.
     
  8. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Don't think by much. It limits the port side wall.

    Jim
     
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  9. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    have to look at what i have.
    the push rods i use are the same that came with the engine.
    they seen up to 10k rpm. never bent one.
    i must me doing something wrong. :oops:
     
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  10. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    $1350 I think I paid 1/2 that going to price us right out of racing at all gee probably 5 grand for heads and rollers not counting the roller cam and lifters. That would make it about 7 grand, almost as much as I paid to have the motor rebuilt and parts and I bought everything.
     
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  11. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Cha Ching!:D
     
  12. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    found a packaging problem today. looking at the other row of rockers, 1.7, 1.7, 1.7 and then 1.6, 1.7 etc. somebody got
    goofy at the assembly line. sent the company an email, no pic, and said help me. we will see what happens,
    rocker angle of the dangle was brought up. distance from c/l to roller on buicks is a wee bit shorter than sbf.
    roughly about .060. since i cut one, now junk, will have to get 2 rockers. will have to move hole over .060.
    taking out the plastic buttons, think i can replace them with a 1/4'' split/spring dowel pin so the rocker stays in place.
    so long kiddies. make sure you eat your cheerios in the morning. :p
     
  13. Jim Nichols

    Jim Nichols Well-Known Member

    Johnny, Some have replaced the plastic buttons with thick aluminum washers and tapped for Allen head bolts. This pic is a GM Diesel but you get the idea. 44788-cf8266de1e61a22f8e7065f33569412a (1).jpg Or just spacer tubes between the rockers.
     
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  14. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    :eek:
    WOWWWWW:eek::eek: in the mid 90’s I paid IIRC 5 or 600 bucks for ‘em!!

    Ain’t that the truth!
    I’m fortunate to have done the roller cam/lifters, forged rods and pistons, SP3, AED 850, big headers back when it was just expensive, now it’s STUPID expensive :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  15. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    talked to speedmaster about their packaging error. no help. would have to buy a whole new set.

    prices today. since and during the main covid era, prices have jump numerous times for the turf industry.
    i have to update prices 6 times. 10k line spread sheet all by hand.
    but there some or maybe a lot of unscrupulous manufacturers that took advantage of the covid era.
    i wish it came under the rico act
     
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  16. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    I just ordered a set of the TA-1309D 1.6:1 rocker arms from TA to use on their TA/Rover heads. I'm going to be mightily disappointed if the roller doesn't hit the center of the valve stem.

    Jim
     
  17. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Im not sure about the Rover heads but the alum 350 heads for sure have the rockers not centred on the valve tips unless you buy the kit to re space them. Did you order these ones? Looks like they offer a different set for the new alum heads vs the iron
     

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  18. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Near 2 grand for rockers:eek::eek:
     
  19. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Seems to me us guys that have already built Buick engines have attained GOLD status as far as speed parts go.
    Couple years back I replaced all the roller bearings and both shafts on my TA roller rockers, glad I did it back then, probably couldn’t afford it now with fuel and food prices Sky high:rolleyes::(
     
  20. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Sean I appreciate the reference but the TA-1309D is a 7/16" stud mount trunion type roller rocker. Not quite the same critter maybe, though it's possible the individual rockers could be the same. I surely hope they aren't the SBC parts which sit outboard of the valve center. I just sent a set of those back and they were less expensive. I'll find out in a couple of days and report back.

    How do you move the rocker shafts anyway? That doesn't even seem possible without redrilling the mounting holes off center and using different pedestals, and it seems like that would weaken the shafts.

    Jim
     

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