hey..... where's all the foreign help???????

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  1. custom

    custom Well-Known Member

    Your 3rd result was from no doubt a Left Wing group.
    Common sense says you can't compare 9/11 to N.O. Good grief man the whole area is below sea level and is filled with water. I would like to see on paper the published version of N.O's pla for hreacting to such disaster since it was known for years the possibility exists. New York had a disaster in a small radius. And the reason the 9/11 reaction was as good as it was is because disaster plans were in place. They usually are in large cities. Again common sense dictates. Bush is far from infallible. But your reaction is typical of the thinking of the Left and that is the hate for Bush is above all else and the Gov't is to blame for every ill.
     
  2. John F. G.

    John F. G. Voting Has Ended!

    911 was an act of war.
     
  3. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    So shouldn't it equal the far right that this ruddy character comes from?


    Your assumption that I'm from the far left is just that, an assumption. I'm more of a reality based person (libertarian) who likes to make fun of the far right and it's views whenever and wherever they may pop up.

    Too bad we didn't go to war against the guy who caused 9/11 eh?
     
  4. 63 lark

    63 lark Well-Known Member

    The war is against those who supported 9-11
    Radical Islam does not look at the world as countries but those of the faith and the infanials. countries have no boundries just faiths ,
    Not all Muslem want to kill us but you do not see them prostesting in the street again the radicals. just as some people will not say some thing bad about a memebr of thier Church even if he is not known for being the best person.I know I have seen that where I live.
    belive me when I tell you we are safer because of what has been done. it is not the Iraqs that we are fighting most of the time.
    I would rather talk about cars but some things need to be set straight, just look more in to it. Check out history not what people want us to think.
    I only say all this because I have fought against some Iraqs(most where not from Iraq),worked with many more.
    As far as some of the world not wanting to help us. (USA) If we are not around someone would have to fill the void and there are a lot of people in line who would like to do that.
    If you would like to know what I saw there just get with me with a PM. I am not going to get into a debate on this,But it is nice that we are free to do so.even if we disagree
    Buicks, that what I would rather debate.
     
  5. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    They did do that in the UK, after the London bombing :TU:

    And they also did that after the killing of the Dutch cineast Theo van Gogh by a Muslem extremist, last year here in Amsterdam.
     
  6. John F. G.

    John F. G. Voting Has Ended!

    I thank you from the bottom of my heart 63 Lark.

    Speaking of Buicks, your 63 looks great.
     
  7. Doo Wop

    Doo Wop Where were you in '62?

    Canadian medical supplies arrive in U.S

    By LORI FAZARI




    EDMONTON (CP) - With Canada's first contributions to the hurricane Katrina relief effort in place or on their way, the extent of what more it will take is becoming clearer by the day, Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan said Monday.

    A planeload of medical supplies arrived Sunday in Atlanta for distribution to areas of need. On Tuesday, four ships loaded with more emergency supplies will sail from Halifax and are expected to arrive on the U.S. Gulf Coast by the end of the week.

    McLellan said aid from Canada likely will continue flowing for weeks.

    "Quite clearly this is a human disaster of enormous proportions. We have tens and tens of thousands of displaced people across the United States," McLellan told a news conference.

    "It is going to take a very long time for them to be able to resume their lives and even in some cases I'm sure determine whether they want to return to homes that have been largely destroyed or whether they want to start over somewhere else."

    McLellan said the American Red Cross has asked Quebec for cots for refugees staying at evacuation centres and that other services had been requested from Ontario.

    "The government of Canada continues to be ready to deploy both human resources and other kinds of services as requested," McLellan said.

    "If the requests continue, we will continue to meet them. Provinces will probably also step up to the plate with their emergency stockpiles."

    She said the government isn't concerned at this point about tallying the cost of sending aid but it's in the tens of millions of dollars.

    So far there hasn't been any suggestion of Canada taking refugees flooded from their homes in New Orleans and other southern U.S. communities, but McLellan said officials are looking at how to meet that need if it's requested by U.S. authorities.

    Prime Minister Paul Martin was expected in Halifax on Tuesday to see off 1,000 military personnel and the four ships headed for Louisiana.

    He planned on touring HMCS Athabaskan, one of three warships being deployed along with a coast guard vessel and three Sea King helicopters.

    "For Canadians to take part in the rescue efforts is an extremely significant show of support, and the prime minister chose to be there to send off the Canadians who are going to help in this very tragic situation," said Martin spokesman Marc Roy.

    Naval crews were busy all weekend loading the ships with gear and supplies, ranging from massive tents to diapers and baby wipes.

    "It's going to be a great feeling to know that the supplies that are going to reach people who are very much in need," Cmdr. Elizabeth Steele said Sunday as he oversaw the loading operation.

    Navy divers have also been dispatched to New Orleans from Halifax and Esquimalt, B.C., to help their U.S. counterparts clear navigational hazards such as loose barges and inspect damaged levees.

    The supply ships and divers are part of a broader Canadian aid mission, dubbed Operation Unison.

    The medical supplies being run from blankets and beds to syringes, surgical gowns, latex gloves, bandages, dressings and even tongue depressors.

    Although the emphasis for now will be on basic supplies, as time goes on Canada could consider sending more sophisticated equipment, such as mobile hospitals.

    The material is coming from stockpiles maintained by Canadian authorities as part of their own disaster preparedness plans.

    As supplies and personnel make their way south, the effort continues to locate any Canadian tourists still stranded in the Gulf Coast. American authorities have barred foreign diplomats from entering New Orleans because of transportation and security issues.

    Dan McTeague, parliamentary secretary for Canadians abroad, said Monday there are now nine Canadians unaccounted for, up from the previous estimate of five on Sunday.

    That doesn't mean they're in danger or hurt - they just haven't been tracked down. But McTeague said he feels upbeat. "Things have improved," he said.

    No Canadian deaths have been reported, and McTeague said there don't appear to be any Canadians in the hardest-hit areas.
     
  8. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member


    Sorry but I don't think so. Ties to the terrorist who committed 9/11 was only another lie told by bush to sell a war against iraq on the american people. If we were truly fighting terrorism, osama would be at Guantnamo or dead.
     
  9. John F. G.

    John F. G. Voting Has Ended!

    Thank you Canadians! :TU:
     
  10. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    At least there seems to be a concentrated effort going on now in the Gulf Coast.
     
  11. custom

    custom Well-Known Member

    Then you should blame Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy and the whole gang for lying also since they, during Clinton's 4 year term, swore that Hussien had WMD's, was a threat and had to be dealt with. If you don't believe all this is true look it up for yourself.
     
  12. 68 Skylark cust

    68 Skylark cust French Canadian Member

    Well said ! You're welcome :beer
     
  13. henry white

    henry white Well-Known Member

    but i spelled it ( allie ) wrong, didnt i ? or did i spell it wrong now? :Do No: :Dou: so many words, i cant remember all of them all of the time. my bad. :error:

    biting my tongue on the war, for now anyway.
     
  14. Joe Kelsch

    Joe Kelsch Eat Mo' Rats

    I may have misinterperated what you wrote, but after reading through the whole CNN thing, it said Mexico is sending the water. It seems that they aren't even waiting for our Government to accept. All the other countries are "waiting on standby" while the Mexicans are actually doing something. Thanks Mexico for saying to hell with our silly red tape and giving aid whether we like it or not.
     
  15. dave64

    dave64 Well-Known Member

    All this talk about which counties are sending,or have offered, aid is great. But what is a country? Countries are made up of individuals and although "Canada" is sending aid, so are provincial and local governments, businesses and individuals. Politics have no place right now. People in LA need help now.

    PCS contributes to hurricane relief

    The StarPhoenix; with Saskatchewan News Network files


    Saturday, September 03, 2005



    The Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan is donating $250,000 US toward hurricane Katrina relief.

    "The human suffering and utter devastation of the larger Gulf Coast region is a tragedy of enormous scale, and it is right in our own backyard," Bill Doyle, PotashCorp president and CEO, said in a news release.

    The potash corporation operates a plant at Geismar, La., which is 96 kilometres northwest of New Orleans. The corporation's employees are safe and escaped the hurricane with only minor damage to some of their homes. The plant was without power for a short time because of the storm, but it has resumed full operations, according to the release.

    "This is about neighbours helping neighbours in a time in desperate need and everyone in the community -- individuals, companies and governments -- joining forces to offer support and hope," Doyle said.

    Of the $250,000, PotashCorp is donating $75,000 each to the American Red Cross and the Salvation Army. The remaining $100,000 will be provided to Geismar-based organizations helping people who have fled the devastation in New Orleans and have taken refuge in Geismar.

    Meanwhile, Premier Lorne Calvert has written to U.S. President George W. Bush, letting him know that "Saskatchewan is ready to help."

    "In past disasters, we have contributed in many ways, including through providing equipment or expertise required as rebuilding takes place. Saskatchewan has many people experienced in emergency responses and disasters -- including people experienced in construction, heavy equipment, public health, technology and water sciences. We will respond as we can should needs be identified by the United States," said Calvert.

    The premier's office has also asked Crown corporations to be ready to lend support.

    "I understand the premier's made that offer, and we're certainly a part of that offer," SaskEnergy president and CEO Doug Kelln said in an interview Friday.

    Kelln, in turn, contacted the American Gas Association (AGA), which is co-ordinating efforts for New Orleans and area's Entergy natural gas and electric company.

    "They were pretty happy to hear from Saskatchewan. They thought it was absolutely incredible that we're half-a-continent away, and that we're thinking of them, and they really appreciated that," said Kelln.

    SaskEnergy has come up with a unique plan to offer the AGA, involving the use of its state-of-the-art monitoring system.

    The Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) computer system is a remote monitoring system for natural gas facilities and pipelines, and could be used to help in the damage control or repair of the Entergy facilities in and around New Orleans.

    Ipsco has also donated $500,000 to the Alabama Gulf Coast chapter of the American Red Cross, and the Regina-based steel company has also announced it will match every dollar donated by its employees.

    Ipsco operates steel and pipe mills in the U.S. and Canada, including one in Regina, and have already been sending supply trucks to Alabama.

    The Saskatchewan Roughriders are also trying to do their part by setting up a Red Cross donation table before their sell-out Labour Day Classic game on Sunday. The Riders, in collaboration with SGI, will collect in the stadium as well. The organization has released a statement saying that the disaster has hit close to home for the team, especially coach Ron Estay and player Corey Holmes, who both have friends and family enduring the disaster in the southern U.S

    To donate call the Red Cross at 1-800-418-1111 or visit www.redcross.ca. To donate to the Salvation Army, call 1-800-SAL-ARMY or visit www.salvationarmy.ca. To donate to the Samaritan's Purse, which is also taking applications for experienced relief workers willing to travel to the southern U.S., call 1-800-663-6500 or visit www.samaritanspurse.ca
     
  16. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member


    We can also look at the fact that they didn't start a war over it. Claiming that they had wmd's is one thing, claiming they had wmd's and starting a war that's draining america dry is another.
     
  17. Iceman8.6

    Iceman8.6 Well-Known Member

    I thoght Hussein started that war back in August of 1990 when he invaded Kuwait??
     
  18. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    There is international help offered, and it's good the hear that a lot of this help is now accepted by the US government.

    So what's the point in discussing who started the Gulf war, or other political stuff similar to that ?

    The original starter of this thread was emotional touched by the disaster that took place in the NO area, and was wondering why there wasn't anything happening to help the victims. To be honest with you:

    The rest of the world wasn't aware of the true impact of Katrina, mostly because of the cheering of the US media that the storm didn't hit NO on full impact, but decided to bow off to the NE ?, and reduced power when it was over land.

    The images that reached us in the past week were shocking, and still we don't have an estimated number of victims.

    But believe me when I tell you that the rest of the world is aware of the huge disaster that struck the NO area (and other parts of the USA), and that we really care.

    So stop taking this thread off topic, and put your energy in helping out fellow Americans (or world citizens): They need it now, more than ever !!!
     
  19. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    The bushites always forget that there was another bush in office before clinton that tried to take out saddam and failed miserably at it.
     
  20. rh455

    rh455 Well-Known Member

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