Iran Reportedly has Launched Drones and Maybe Missles at Israel

This can't be good. Sounds like a massive attack is on it's way. I don't think Israel will sit on their hands. I expect it will be a massive Israeli response in return. Sure hope WW3 is not starting.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-launches-drone-attack-toward-israel-idf-says/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-attack-strikes-live-updates-rcna147477

 

X 3 (Stage III!)

 

Trouble in the middle east? Unheard of...

 

To make this thread Buick related:

Buick Skylarks were assembled in Iran (four-door sedans only) from 1977 to 1981 and again from 1986 to 1988 under the brand name of "Buick Iran".
The first generations were known as B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, from 1977 until 1981, and the second and last generation was known as the B2 and B3 from 1986 until 1988.

The later models were made after GM released the kits and parts to Iran following the GM's debt to Iran General Motors.
These cars were equipped with a 5.7L engine (SB 350 Chevrolet, L engine, 4BBL), and were fully equipped (power door locks, power window, power steering, automatic transmission, a/c, vinyl top).

The Cadillac Seville and Chevrolet Nova were manufactured in Iran during the same period. A total of 40,000 GM cars were produced between 1977 and 1987 in Iran.
These models were basically the same as those built in the U.S. from 1975 to 1979 (Islamic Revolution).

GM Iran changed its name to Pars Khodro (meaning "Pars Automobile" in Iranian, "Pars" being the ancient, original name of Persia) after 1979.
The production continued from 1979 to 1987 on a part-time, occasional basis.
Since the spare parts and the assembly-line equipment were not used between 1979 and 1986.

GM ceased the production of all vehicles in Iran in 1987.

 

Amazing - looks like most of the 300 objects were destroyed. Iron dome indeed! I also hope and pray this is the end of it, at least this event. I feel bad for the 10 YO girl, but it could have been much worse.

 

I think Iran’s ‘attack’ was performative. Their leaders knew it would turn out like this (probably would have been shocked to had they actually penetrated) and it allows Iran to strut and boast to the people about ‘our retaliation would have caused massive damage except for the meddling by the US! Infidels! Death to America! Death to the Jews!’ In fact, since the government controls the media, they can say whatever they want about how much damage they caused.

Patrick

 

“Speak softly, and carry a big stick; you will go far” seems to have worked for the moment, with most of the missiles and drones being shot down.

 

...agree. But it also probed the Iron Dome and western response for some future strategy. Israel has been under constant Islamic attack from its inception, and, each time, has had to leave task of eliminating threat unfinished due to western politics. Same thing in Ukraine. Neville Chamberlain 2.0. The only thing aggressors understand is defeat. Unfortunately, defeating aggressors could mean the end of civilization, but then science didn't know if splitting the atom would ignite the atmosphere when we were creating the A-bomb...

 

Coulda, shoulda, wouldas aside, you can't negotiate with someone that will not acknowledge your right to exist.

I say turn our back for a minute and let Israel off the chain to "fix the glitch" that has been a thorn in modern life once and for all. Without a state sponsor of terrorism, it will largely evaporate into manageable bites. Even Russia is dealing with these terrorists that go after soft targets of no military value.

I like how Sean Connery put it in The Untouchables, "He sends one of ours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue."

 

Here's the deal. Iran has been working on a Nuclear capability for some time. When they get to the phase they can launch this capability, this is when the Middle East will explode into a war far worse than has been experienced.
This will expand to all of Iran's proxies too.
It just a matter on time.
No one wants WW3, but, there will be huge Regional wars.
I guarantee you, we are and have been preparing for such an event.
Why do you think our Military is frustrated that our youth are not in good enough physical condition to be recruited into the military.
We need the likes of a George Patton to lead our troops.
This Middle East war is coming, no question.
If we don't conquer Iran, we will feel the effects of Terrorism terror for years to come.
More and more 911 events will happen in our Country, mark my words. Vet

 

I like Mike Ermentraut’s (sp) quote from ‘Breaking Bad’…
‘No half measures.’

Patrick

And I think, much the chagrin and dismay of some, the US is letting Beebs do what needs to be done.

 

I had a professor at UGA, Curtis E. ‘Case a Day’ Tate, during the first Gulf War. His solution then? ‘I’d carpet bomb Iraq from east to west, north to south, for 30 days straight. Then I’d send the ground troops in to kill anything left. Then, rebuild it like it should be.’ Even in ‘91, even at UGA, even in the business school, there were some snowflakes who were aghast. He was right, though…
Patrick

Here’s his obit:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/onlineathens/name/curtis-tate-obituary?id=27506118

 

Patrick,
Who is this Curtis E. “case a day” Tate you speak of? Some of my closest friends call me “Case a beer Carroll.” I think I could hang out with this guy!!!

 

I agree 110% with Mr. Tate.

The fact is, the majority of Iranians hate the Islamic regime they are forced to live under.
Taking down Iran, we would finally bring freedom to Iran.
Just like we did for Japan, Germany and Italy.
It's the Dictators we need to get rid of, not the people being enslaved. Vet

 

Didn't work so well in Afghanistan. 20 years later, the talibandits are still running the place, just better armed and better trained. Look at any pic of the talibandits and you will see trigger discipline like coalition taught them.

Not so sure it made much of a difference in Iraq, either.

 

What I'm about to write about, is NOT Political. It's just plain facts. Take it or leave it my friends. Vet (Navy)

That situation is CAUSED by Politicians running the Military. Not the Military running the War. Just like Vietnam.
What do you think would happen if we had someone like General Patton running the War against the Terrorist?

Politicians worry about getting voted back into office.
They love the preserved power they believe they have in Congress and throughout American.
What is the percentage of Congressmen who have served onto the Military? Read this...

The 118th Congress includes 97 veterans, which represents 18% of the total membership. This is the highest number of members with military experience since 2015. However, it’s essential to note that this percentage has declined significantly over the years. In 1973, nearly three in every four members of Congress had some type of military service. In contrast, by 2023, it’s estimated that only about one in every six members will have military experience. Get the picture? Vet (Navy)

PS, a tidbit of information:
Approximately 43% of the United States Congress members are lawyers.
This includes both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Specifically:

• House of Representatives: About 37.2% of its members hold law degrees.
• Senate: Lawyers make up 60% of the Senate.

 

USAF retired. Have some t-shirts.

The idea that we "need", representatives with military backgrounds and/or mindset of a military nature is not in our best interests.

The founders of this country realized and were forward thinking that the representatives needed to be from a wide cut of all demographics.

Having "the King's men" in the position to control and influence policy, would be rife with the danger of tyranny.

The "military industrial complex" serves to feed itself.

We need a system that has various checks and balances to prevent on strong and dominate branch from beating the other's into submission and permitting a single entity from becoming so powerful as to step on the "people's" desire for the best possible path forward in all things.

The military should be a part of all represented, just as farmers, storekeepers, teachers, the bum on the street, the drunk in the bar, even the person behind bars, everyone needs to be in the representative whole of all Americans.

When any one group is given a greater "share" or "voice", all will suffer, and suffer greatly.

 

What are we going to do?
Who will fix all this craziness
of humankind?