New Oil tech..

LN Engineering LLC, post #34 in this thread

 

Anyone use the Amsoil?

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/amo.aspx

 

Jim, did he mention to you that standard oil does break down at a faster rate the synthetic when it comes to tempature, Yes its been proven and thats why top fuel cars use it. I have been to two of this so called oil things and and so far when a indepent test are performed the results always came out rt. why. The other brand Chevy has been using the synthetic way back before rev limiters and they still go beyound the normal miles. It also been proven on wear too did they show anything on that? I want see proof not here proof..

 

Here is the ultiminate question, If synthetic is no different then standard oil then why have most of every car manifacture in the world is using synthetic and not standard oil? That including Buick, they used it in the 3800 serious engines.

 

There are no additional zinc additives in motorcycle oils either. Most have roller lifters or very large diameter pucks on the bucket type ohc stuff and don't need it. They are putting cats on bikes now too so zinc is a concern.

 

I switched over to Amsoil in my daily driver and so far I am happy with it. Engine is not near as noisy at startup as it used to be.

 

Is Royal Purple break in oil any good? Or is Joe Gibbs considered the best?

 

I would like to see a independent test done, so there is no one saying which one is the best just actaul facts. A video would be nice.

 

Here is something we all need to read about..http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/faq.php?faq=haas_articles and here is the other...http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/cms/, I'll find more for ya. Read this on oil analysis, http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=478846 and here is the company that does it....http://www.blackstone-labs.com/.. There is alot to read there so enjoy reading, I prefer royal purple, I ran all othe type before and never had the same results as rp, So that just tells you something there, do your own test and enjoy changing oil in the mean time.

 

Joe Gibbs website broken? (Re: New Oil tech..)

Dear Jim and V-8 Buick members,

Thanks so much Jim for sharing all this information on new oil technology and classic engines. :TU: The second rebuild on the 300 cid V-8 of my trusty wagon is showing signs of valve wear after only 60,000 miles and I wonder if using modern lubricants had something to do with that. So when this car is finally equipped with a new engine I'm going to pay very careful attention to all the issues raised here.

One silly question though. Is the Job Gibbs web site broken somehow? If I go to http://www.joegibbsdriven.com/ it displays a strange white page and claims my version of Adobe Flash isn't up to date. I've upgraded my Flash but no change. Also, if I try the cached version of the front page from a Google search that appears to make the Job Gibbs website work once more.

No biggie obviously - just wondering if my Mac is being picked on again! :Comp:

Cheers, Edouard :beer

 

Edouard..

Looks like the Gibbs site is not working..

JW

 

I was at Summit Racing last week and they have their own version of oil that has the zinc in it. It was 4.95 qt. There was another post on it talking about it.

 

Same amount of ZDDP for hydraulic roller cam? (Re: New Oil)

Dear Jim and V-8 Buick members,

Thanks Jim for the confirmation! Prefer not to be isolated because of my Macintosh inclinations! :Comp:

While I'm here, let me ask a quick question about ZDDP for engines with a hydraulic roller cam. In your starting post you write:

So was the advice to provide basically the same amount of ZDDP as is recommended for other classic engines - or less? Given that now you can get oil formulations tailored for classic cars, it would be the easiest if you use the same formulations in an engine with hydraulic roller cam.

Hey, I'm as lazy as the next feller! :laugh:

Cheers, Edouard :beer

 

I look at it this away, If Nascar is not using it then why try ito No: ? They are still using other oils other then JG's oil, Whyo No: ? I don't see NHRA Prostocks using it, Whyo No: ?

 

Thanks! (Re: ZDDP and hydraulic roller cam?)

Dear Larry and V-8 Buick members,

Thanks for passing on Jim's recommendation. I like nothing better than when the path of least resistance also happens to do the most good! :TU:

Too bad we can't get all sorts of other goodies for our classic cars just by being lazy! :grin:

Cheers, Edouard :beer

 

Anybody find this stuff interesting?

http://nextgen.valvoline.com/

It's a new product targeting the hippies (been around for years but is being remarketed). It's half recycled and half new. Still charge full price though. I guess you buy oil, then give it back when it's dirty, they clean it, then sell it back to you again. Good way to reduce oil dependence, but also a good way to pay for the same thing twice uzzled:

Makes me wonder, if they can make a full synthetic and then keep recycling it, will dino oil go bye bye like 8 tracks did?

 

Would you use this in an engine you cared about? (Re: Oil tech..)

Dear Bammax and V-8 Buick members,

Thanks for sharing this snippet, . . . . Still, I dunno'

The only thing I know about oil that has been previously used in an engine is that it has high levels of sulfur from the processes of combustion. They used to burn waste oil in historic steam locomotives because it was cheap. Unfortunately it rapidly accelerated corrosion in the boilers and effectively side-lined a few classic-steamers prematurely. The Valvoline website makes a fuss about "improved refining techniques" but would that remove that sulfur given that was generated in a manner very different from crude oil?

It seems to me that if I cannot feel comfortable using an oil like this in my classic, nobody should use it. Long-term durability of a car is very much an environmentally-friendly attribute. As much as the "Prissy" (Prius) crowd may snear at classic car owners, we have a thing or two to teach them about environmental responsibility. Too bad they won't get off their "holier than thou" throne and listen.

Oh well, grin and bare it. o No:

Cheers, Edouard

 

Re: Would you use this in an engine you cared about? (Re: Oil tech..)

Valvoline, Is still the best non syntheic oild aviable. Joe Gibbs has been working on his stuff for how many yearso No: ? And Valvoline has been in the oil business for how many yearso No: ? Come on folks, common sense here.. Buick exclusively used Valvoline all the way up to the late 80's to early 90's and never had a bad problem in any of there engines. If you want to know what best for your engine, contact Kenne Bell, Bob Kittle, John Meany, and Lee nunn, those are the guys thats made the Buick GNX AND Grand National. Kenne Bell Helped design the turbo for the little V-6 John Meany was the EFI God tuner,Bob Kittle which is my uncle was the Engine enginner at Buick that worked on that engine for 6 year before anyone saw it,and he was the man behind the ECM for that car, all D.O.S. system. Lee Nunn was the man that had the brains and though of the car..... Now tell me what Joe has done in his cars?

 

Re: Would you use this in an engine you cared about? (Re: Oil tech..)

Valvoline, Is still the best non syntheic oild aviable. Joe Gibbs has been working on his stuff for how many yearso No: ? And Valvoline has been in the oil business for how many yearso No: ? Come on folks, common sense here.. Buick exclusively used Valvoline all the way up to the late 80's to early 90's and never had a bad problem in any of there engines. If you want to know what best for your engine, contact Kenne Bell, Bob Kittle, John Meany, and Lee nunn, those are the guys thats made the Buick GNX AND Grand National. Kenne Bell Helped design the turbo for the little V-6 John Meany was the EFI God tuner,Bob Kittle which is my uncle was the Engine enginner at Buick that worked on that engine for 6 year before anyone saw it,and he was the man behind the ECM for that car, all D.O.S. system. Lee Nunn was the man that had the brains and though of the car..... Now tell me what Joe has done in his cars?