Rice Vs Lamborghini Diablo

Hey Im new to the site but when I found this thread it reminded me of the time my dad DESTROYED a HOOKED UP integra with a STOCK 1992 Mercedes SL500 LOL. I have my own rice killer in the works, a 69 skylark which will hopefully get a big block, th400, and ford 9 inch over the winter...

 

Those SL Benzes are really nice. I ran one a while back in my VW, but I didn't have any problems putting a few car lengths on it.:beer

 

I actually had money on a Falcon last week, but when I looked more at the car the less I thought it was worth it. I'm trying to find one in the US, trouble is there's only about 100 or so over here and only a few are for sale.

 

hey atx,
is the car in that picture yours, or are you just trying to convert us from to your ricer ways from your dad's v8buick account? (by the way...skyline is not legal in US and the MR2 is a poser)

 

The sick ones usually "are" the sleepers. The ones that look like a sheet metal experiment gone bad are generally the real pukes. :error:

 

Actually Skylines can be made legal for the US for about $20,000, nad I can almost gaurantee they can hang with most Muscle cars because they(GTR's) don't have the traction issues that a Supra has nor do they have the small powerband,I'm not switching sides here just letting you know what I think.And stock they only have 277hp and run 13.7's in the quarter.So imagine what they can do with little work.

 

1 prob about the skyline and 1 question do you really want to pay 77,000 + for a car thats slower than a vette and costs more to build and doesnt handle nearly as well? im not impressed with the skyline at all, over rated to say the least... no offense.
if i was gonna spend that kind of money id get a vette and build it up with the remaining money. or better yet put that much in a GN :grin:.

 

You are right about ricers being slower in the 1/4, a 1994 Nissan Skyline GTR holds the record for 4wd 1/4mile times with a 8.55. :ball:

 

I will go on record here as saying I like the sleeper imports. Sadly they are few and far between. What we mostly see is the Fast and Furious wannabes.

ATX, I have got to clarify something I said. With the 4-71 and 6-71 roots blowers they CANNOT be turned on and off. They run whenever the engine does. The Eaton SCs have a bypass valve for cruise speed. I THINK Whipplechargers have something similar.

Skylines are cool, but I can't imagine having to buy parts for it. Talk about a pain and expensive. Besides, I don't want a car I have to worry about being stolen all the time. A Skyline is one of those cars.

 

I couldn't have said it better.

 

Your right about buying parts.I personally have always wanted a Honda cvcc with a 2000 civic si motor in it because nobody would ever suspect it, or a Datsun 510 with a sr22 engine.

 

Jumping in on this kinda late, but...

Figured I'd just throw my two cents in as everybody else seemingly already has. I'll keep it semi short.

Cars are cars. Enjoy them for what they are. Not all Buicks are god's gift to the world. Ditto for imports, american cars, and european cars. There are fast cars and slow cars made by just about every brand, so stop bickering that Buicks are better, or Supras are better...it's all point of view. If you like your Buick (as I do), be happy with it, and f*ck what everyone else thinks. If you have an import with a wing, ground effects, neon lights, and no engine mods, and you're happy with it, f*ck what other people say. You know how much crap I have gotten from stupid ignorant people cos my car is a 4 door? Or hell, even from Buick people cos my car isn't an a-body or regal type?

My whole point is, enjoy what you have, and let other people enjoy their cars.

 

If you are talking about the Lark in my sig, yes... it is my POS.
Skyline isn't legal in the US? Uh oh, better call the authorities and shut down MOTOREX. MR2 is a poser? It ran 14's stock with a tiny turbo and low boost.

 

Yea, skylines are legal in the us *after* they have about 15k worth of emissions/etc to meet our laws. Anyone that actually imports a skyline is only in it for the looks since you can spend that kind of money on upgrades on an old talon and go faster.

 

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ATX, I know that you aren't trying to make us feel bad by posting a pic of a riced out probe. I would hardly call that "American Muscle". That thing shares a chassis with Mazda!!! I think you must have the wrong forum, try www.bling-bling.com, cause "You'll get no sympathy from me".

 

Who ever said anything about American muscle? This thread is about RICE... on the import and domestic side. Yes, the Probe is not a stellar performer on the domestic side, just like Civics aren't on the import side... both cars are featured in this thread. As far as telling me to go to some other site... sorry pal, I am here for Buick info, as I own a 72 Lark (which I love). I also own and have owned imports as well... and all have been great, well, save for my first car which was an 87 Hyundai Excel I defend them all, so deal with it.

 

Hey Adam, way to carry on the good fight.

Like many car guys who still look at fuel injection in awe, occasionally poking it with a stick in the flicker light of their caves, there are a some (but not all) guys posting here that just don't get the difference between a fast car and "wanna be" transcends this domestic vs. import brewhaha. A riced out blinged out honda is no different than a clapped out regal with slapper bars and a set of glasspacks on a v6. The numbers don't lie, Turbo supras and big block buicks may have different ways of getting there but both are capable of streetable 11 seconds, and roughly cost the same to build (not counting the cost of the car, and assuming you started with an 1964-1972 GS buick in nice shape - you could well spend more than the initial purchase price of a supra in bodywork alone to a clapped out stage 1), and both turn approximatley equal times stock.

Want a better example: look at racing. Pro-import cars and Pro stock cars share the same budgets, chassis, weight, and are virtually identical in ever respect except the engines. In fact some pro import cars began life as prostock cars. On one hand you have a merlin, or dart, or Keith black carbed big inch big block chevy or hemi based mill, on the other you have fuel injected, multiple poweradded, race and production stock (supra and solara) blocks using every high tech trick in the book to make up for their lack of cubic inches. Both cars run very similar numbers, imports usually being half a second off from their pro stock brothers, why? because as Warren Johnson said in a recent interview the import cars have the potential to go faster because they make more horsepower but becasue they are still new they don't have the r&d to optomize their chassis to the engine combo. If the pro stock guys had the technology maybe they could go faster but the technology for these older engines isn't there. Look at Pro street, similar to pro stock except the engine restriction aren't as strict and they can use turbos and FI and nitrous and they still can't go any faster. At the end of the day a fast car is a fast car. It takes the same amount of money, time, and devlopment to get there, and the only thing different is the methods.

don't we have the same argument going on in three other threads at the same time? maybe we should just start a import vs. domestic thread and keep it going so as not to end up hijacking every kill story there is with this same argument.

 

Speaking of quick imports, check out this Celica with a Supra drivetrain...

Stock block, crank, head. Of the shelf pistons, rods, hardware, oversized valves, cams and a ported/polished head. Not too bad.

http://www.highboost.com/movies/TitanRace/fastestcelica.wmv

 

follow the link, several pics, so if your on dial up. Let the page load before you start reading it.

http://www.viragotech.com/honduh.html