Thumbs down on car shipper Jim

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by red67wildcat, Feb 24, 2023.

  1. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Here are a few "alleged" photos of this truck and trailer failures that were shared with me. One was a receiver that rusted and broke and another was a low cost trailer that failed. Some sketchy 4x4 loading action etc.

    A few reviews:

    https://www.ripoffreport.com/report...-aka-jim-jarzabek-bait-and-switch-too-1054513

    https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=301935

    https://forum.e-bodies.org/general-topics/7/auto-transport/12107/

    "@Bills Auto Works does shipping and it would be in great hands with him. Since he's a 1 car transporter it might be more money than finding a big open rig, but you would not find a better guy to ship with.

    If it'a not a big deal if it's handled by a big company (which is not as nice as using someone like Bill, but might cost less), I've had good luck with Passport transport http://www.passporttransport.com/

    Also, Avoid Truly Vintage (Jim Jarzabek). He shipped one of my cars and raised the price $1,000 after he got it and then when I didn't agree to pay he left the car in the middle of the country."

    I have no personal experience with this dude, just sharing what others have shared. I won't post all the e-mails and personal letters that were sent to me in confidence.
     

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  2. red67wildcat

    red67wildcat Well-Known Member

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    red67wildcat Well-Known Member

  4. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    My $0.02 on the subject.
    It looks like Freight Jim runs a tractor trailer rig or something similar. Those aren't cheap to operate, or properly insure.
    His statement about access with such a rig is valid. Most big rig auto haulers have very low ground clearances.
    Should he become stuck and require a tow, that bill starts north of 1k, plus miles to and from the tow site.
    He has every right to charge for ALL empty miles between his drop off and his next pick up. That's not rude. That's the cost of doing business.

    Hauling autos for a living is tough work compared to hauling van loads of freight. EVERY vehicle must be properly secured and regularly checked during transport. Vehicles often need to be moved off and back on the trailer more than once before reaching their final destination. That's not easy, plus it's time consuming.
    Lastly, a $1.00 per mile rate is insulting and would barely cover fuel cost.
     
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  5. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    And I was ridiculed when I quoted a guy $1500 to Connecticut from Central Pa. Several said things like "you can't charge for the empty return trip" or "I'd do it for half of what you're asking yada,yada,yada.'' Turns out the guy rented a truck,a Uhaul trailer and it cost more than what I quoted. Till he paid all the bills for rent,fuel,1/2 a day and such,he was right in the same price as me. It cost's me $510 a year registration,$500 a year for full coverage insurance on my truck,$60 a year average for inspection and registration on my open trailer alone. Then you add fuel cost al 11 mpg @.$5.00 per gallon TO AND FROM the drop site. and it starts to add up. I guess my time driving doesn't count,or paying tolls to and from the drop. Add in the 30 miles from my house to go get the car that doesn't run,back into the garage and hand load it,secure it and the same at delivery time.Add another hour for that. Like I stated,I'll help out friends and do local things and not lose sleep...I have pulled several cars for people,was on time,no accidents or damage to others belongings and have several satisfied customers.
     
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  6. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Interesting to see the conversation. I'm thinking he went with Hugger's plan. I didn't see where he was rude to you until you were rude to him.


    95% of this probably could be avoided if the communication wasn't done through text messages... I never do business through texts only.

    Also, Montway is an absolute joke. That $1500 quote is worthless, they only tell you that to get a deposit. Your "scheduled" pick up time is just as meaningless. You'd pay double that and wait two weeks before they found a shipper.
     
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  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    he drives this
     

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  8. red67wildcat

    red67wildcat Well-Known Member

    I wouldn’t expected him to travel the 100 mile from his drop off to my pick up without adding that miliage in
    not a issue
    I understand access’s in truck and trailers
    not a issue


    My issue was just shoot me a price for trip

    Only he knows what he needs to do that
    Not up to the customer I feel to throw numbers out in my opinion
    I gave him the quotes I had just as it was all I had to start with
    should I have started by offering a random number that was pulled out of the wind?
    If I offered $1.50 a mile would have that been a insult?
    Or does he need $2.00 a mile ?

    maybe it’s my perspective and Im wrong but how was I rude to him first?

    I’ve shipped several cars and never had to throw out a number and I understand how some of these brokers change prices

    btw if he had thrown out 1.50 a mile I woulda taken it
    I paid about 1.40 a mile on a ship last year but like I said everyone sets their own rate and not the same route

    When I bid carpentry jobs I don’t ask what they want to spend I quote what I need
    The accept or they don’t
     
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  9. CCM

    CCM Gold Level Contributor

    He should have quoted you a rate, plain and simple. I own my own business and when customers come to me for a job I don't ask them what they want to pay... I know what my time costs and I bid the job appropriately. No reason to play games.
     
  10. 3clicks

    3clicks Well-Known Member

    As a potential customer for any professional providing a service, I am expecting a quote for the job, that's it. The comments about knowing "what I am looking for" and the passive aggressive shot of "cheap asses." I would have been thinking, WTF. you don't know me, homie, what I am looking for, or looking to pay. Just tell me what you will charge. Then, it's up to me whether I want to pay for your service or not. Maybe the text format causes some "lost in translation" but that exchange did not come across professional in my opinion.
     
  11. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Your "you know nothing about what I want" line is the first fired shot fired IMO.

    This is why I don't do business through text exclusively. I may be reading it out of context, but that's the problem with texting.
     
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  12. 446379H

    446379H Well-Known Member

    On all those tv remodel show the first thing they say “ how much do you have to spend “? Uhh 150k ? “ we might can do your kitchen for that “. What a joke . I hope that’s tv drama and the idiots aren’t really paying that .
     
  13. 71GS455

    71GS455 Best Package Wins!

    That must be an older photo. I used him in January of 2020 to bring my '62 from my parent's house in Dewey, AZ to Bellevue, WA. I didn't have any issues with him. I just happened to see he was coming through while I was there and we were trying to figure out the shipping. With texts and phone calls, we arranged for me to drive it to a truck stop on the main highway as his rig wouldn't have fit where my parents live. This was the most convenient for us both. He already had a car in his trailer. It's even longer than the one in the photo. We made arrangements based on portions of the trip that were already loaded with the other vehicle and those miles where my car was the only one. He updated me with his location. He may have had a problem in my old cul de sac with the length and turning around. So he called me when he was in the neighborhood up the street, where there was a wide shoulder and he knew he could get out. I walked the two blocks over and got the car. He did a pre and post video of the car, telling a bit of the history (my mom bought it in 1964) and a little interview from me.

    But there were no problems and things went as well as I could have hoped for.

    I've attached a photo of the car that was in front as well as my car before going in. I don't know why it rotated one of the photos, but that's what It was behind until it was dropped off.
     

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  14. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    I stand corrected. Nevertheless, he would require additional insurance coverage.

    As some have said, doing business solely by text isn't the best. It's a deal breaker for me. I want to speak with them directly to iron out any misunderstandings.
     
  15. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    When I’m asked that I’ll say “I don’t wanna pay anything”
    In other words your going to be a smart ass, I’ll give it right back to you TOOL!
     
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  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    That’s why I like animals better:D
     
  17. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    That's a different comparison to hauling a car. Home renos are often full of hidden surprises which add to the overall cost.
    Moving a car from A to B entails calculating route miles to arrive at the total cost. From that number, the carrier covers all associated costs from A to B. That includes their wages, fuel, various types of insurance, maintenance, breakdowns, and any other costs.
     
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  18. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Getting the other guy to toss out a number first is a good negotiating tactic, whether you're the buyer or seller.
     
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  19. Todd69GS

    Todd69GS Silver Level contributor

    Exactly! I'm not the one providing a service. I don't play games with people that aren't willing to give me a quote. I would never hire someone to do anything for me that can't provide me with an estimate of cost.
     
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  20. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I don't understand why there needs to be "tactics" involved?

    The gut wanted a price. Give him one. Who gives a crap what other estimates the potential customer got?
     

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