24 volts to start 430 after replacing piston rings

make sure they didnt use pontiac rod bearings my parts store sent me the pontiac bearings and after the 5th piston in git locked up they fit in tge cap but a couple mm to wide

 

I wouldn't even try turning it over anymore. something ain't right, and forcing it over will only cause damage to the expensive parts. It either wasn't lubed properly, or mis-matched caps, improper clearances. Whatever, yank it out and take a look..

 

I think you have the general idea here, I would tear that pan off, if the problem isn't there, i'd remove the heads and look for scoring. I would not crank that engine anymore without knowing the answer.

 

Rotating the dist. counter clockwise advances the timing,easy mistake, if you want to retard it it should be rotated clockwise a little at a time.
gary

 

The only reason why I don't think its the bearings is because before putting the heads on we bump the starter pistons where moving fine up an down

 

Before putting the heads on could you rotate it by hand using a 1/2" drive ratchet, you should have been able to.
thanks Bruce

 

did anyone mes with the timing chain? try unbolting the rockers and taking spark plugs out

 

No nothing with the timing was touch I did not try turn it by hand before putting heads on Just bump starter

 

Distributor was not taken out the motor

 

ok. if this is the case, you are in the middle of one super, big time, half-assed attempt at a rebuild. of you didn't hone the cylinders, your new rings arn't going to do much. if you did, well then, you shot metal shavings all over the crank, and everywhere else and thats probably why it won't turn over. do yourself a favor, punt and do it properly. o No:

 

Screw it, I will be the guy.
How the hell(3 shops) told you 24 was the answer?

 

Well guys thanks for the ideas but they where correct it took the volts to start it we hooked up the heavy duty battery charger an she started.

 

How can you replace rings and not take out distributor.....o No:

They are not right about the 24............you have other issues

 

On that 430 why should u take the distributor out

 

You don't have to take it out

 

The cylinders need to be honed or your new rings will not seal correctly.

Cant hone the cylinders with the cam and other parts still in motor.

 

"In-the-frame" ring-and-bearing jobs used to be common. It's a ****ty way of doing things...but it can be successful if the bores aren't worn and if adequate attention is paid to cleanliness.

Glad you got it started. First Guess: you're going to have problems later.

There is no reason that it would require 24 volts to start unless SOMETHING was screwed-up; but the list of possible pooch-screws is too long to write here. Suffice to say that your best possible outcome is that you have a defective battery, starter, or cables/connections.

 

Would it be possible to do an "in frame" ring and bearing job without taking the heads or intake off? That would be pretty slick. You wouldn't even have to drain the coolant.:Brow:

 

Pistons won't come out the bottom. Therefore, no access to replace the rings.

 

Why be so negative u guys kill me oh your going to have issues later why could it not been the battery thanks anyway I guess