Tough crowd around here hope you have thick skin, dont worry someone will buy the car. Good Luck with the sale. Herb
...my wife is thankful it is not closer by...good luck with the sale. It is a good pedigree project car that will easily make a good driver for the right price:TU:
doesnt 'barn find' and 'owner wanted it gone' mean the car was bought for next to nothing? if so, then why is there a reserve? i hate these ads.
Mater would say "shhhheeeeooot" did anyone notice the passenger side CHROME mirror on the ground? Heck, I'm gonna bid on the car just for that! :Brow: Naah. Not really. But I will say this...SOMEONE will end up with a nice and fairly complete 70 GS stage 1 4 speed car for a project...wish it were me. Oh yea... my wife just reminded me I already have one in my garage.. a 6 year project still unfinished. ou: ...um. gotta go now. Wheelz, Tampa bay
Wow, that thing is cool! If I didn't have my car now, I would be all over that thing, Pontiac pedals and Olds seats be damned! (I have '72 Cutlass Buckets in my skylark now that will be up for grabs soon...) KFD
Jacquie, that's a cool find. 4 speeds aren't falling out of tree's. A little ruff around the edges but it's not THAT bad, and certainly not in need of a tag job that some poster's criticizing your car have done o No:. There's no place for that here. In regards to Olds interior, People forget Buick interiors were not being reproduced at that time, I'm sure the fellow in Arkansas used what he could find, Or maybe he always wanted a 442 ? :laugh: Good luck with the sale, DL
Someone will have a nice car.. Sure it needs a redo... ....and some correct parts... and rust repair... buts it's rare.. hope it's saved... If I had the $$$, I would.. Iggycat Mike NJ
I just bid on it for a friend and reserve is not met at 4455.00 ( nice number huh) Not sure how much he's willing to go since he's at work and cannot see the pics yet.
The door sill looks like the same thing I found when restoring my GS. No big deal. The spongy weather strip held some moisture against that area and it is rust from the OUTSIDE-in. I corrected mine with a donor section from another GS. You couldn't even see it after I ground down the welds. This was the only door jamb area affected on my car. The pictures of the '70 GS Stage 1 underside clearly show this car doesn't have structural issues. A very good starting point on a car that has to be 1 of 1.
This web site isn't what it used to be. In the past, it seemed like a Buick guy could share experiences and insight and feel understood and appreciated. Not so, at least in this thread. There are lots of cheap shots going on, and I'm not exactly sure why.
The worst thing about this car is the original block is missing (NOT the rust), which is clearly stated in the ad. In fact, the car looks pretty solid underneath especially for a car that wasn't undercoated. Most 70 455's are not numbers matching anyway, and several of these have been treated to frame off restos and have won Concours Gold awards. Why would you even consider spending $1K for a Stage 1 carb on a car that isn't a numbers car? BTW, if someone is willing to do a lot of the dis-assembly and re-assembly themselves, and only farm out the body and paint as well as the major drive train rebuilding and chrome etc., this car can be restored for around $25-30K in my opinion. Add that to the unknown price of the car, and I will argue that you could even make a buck one day. But, if you drop this car off at a resto shop and expect it to be perfect and also expect it to be cheap enough to get your investment back, then this is not the car for you. Bottom line - A good financial investment? No. A good car for someone to restore? Yes
Brian-- You have telling the truth about the economics of buying and restoring old cars and the identification of issues confused with "cheap shots". For example, the ad does list the mileage as 25K, the engine does not have the original carb, radiator, lumps appear under the vinyl top, etc. All these facts affect value. If we did not permit a discussion of the good, the bad, and the ugly for cars listed for sale on ebay other members would call it censorship.
There are pros and cons to any car for restoration purposes. Either way,I am still bidding............
Yes,front and rear glass is missing. I asked a question about it through Ebay and also asked about the trans,rear matching and how they know the heads are Stage heads when they are on the motor? No reply yet but I am sure they will. Also,in the first pic,there appears to be bucket seats on the floor from that era. Wonder if they are the originals????
1 of 1. If you restored this car would you ever expect to park it next to another code 78 Burgundy Mist Poly, black bucket seat, non-operating console, upper peak molding, black vinyl top, a/c, 4 speed car? If a Marti Report can break down a '69 Mustang into 1 of 1, we sure as he_l can do it with a 70 S1. I'll stick with my earlier comment. Anyone that's been around these cars for years knows that it is a very unusual combination on a car with low production numbers to start with.
but couldn't there have been 2 ? or 5 ? or maybe even 10, which would be 1.5% of Stage 1 4 speeds ? That's doesn't seem unreasonable. And maybe burgundy and AC choice were often ordered together ? anyhow...what is "upper peak molding?"
