So G1 just ment positive traction Dif.. Same axles as any GS or Skylark that year? I know in 71 they went to stronger 8.5. I'm guessing the same number would be used. Thanks.
Brett, when I read that sheet of yours I think: A01- ?, D57- Consolette, M20- Fourspeed Transmission, U80- Rear Speaker. Are those options correct for your car ? What would A01 be ?
Don't ever doubt the strength of the 8.2" HD rear axle. Put it to you this way, Hemi's had to use a Dana rear, the 8.2" held up to MORE torque than the hemi produced. Torque is what makes the earth rotate...
".....................but I´m thinking that the lower part of that sheet contains option codes." You are correct, they are option codes. "Why would they write those down and put the sheet in the back of the drivers seat ?" Like I posted earlier, they are most often found against the springs under the bottom of the passenger seat. The sheet was placed there by Fisher Body to make sure the correct seats made it into the correct car at Buick's Final Assembly. I have also found these sheets inside the bucket seat tops, where they are hidden once the seat backs are installed. I am sure they had other ways to make sure the right seats made it into the correct cars, we just don't have that information. The only info I have is what we were able to piece together from pieces that were left on the cars as they left the plant. "...........I mean, why not just write the Fisher body number on the sheet ?" This sheet is from a car produced at the Flint Plants, other plants used different coding systems. The number at the top of the sheet is the reference number used by Fisher Flint & Buick Flint Final Assembly to ID the car. The number at the top was crayoned onto the driver side saddle bag. This was the ID/reference number that was on the shell when it was going thru Final Assembly, and should still be there if you take the front fender off. This same number would also have been crayoned on the wheels so they made it to the right home. That number may have also been crayoned on the "body cart" the shell was sitting on as it went thru final assembly. Maybe reading all those long body numbers at the production facilities made for too much confusion, who knows, but that is the system that Flint cars used. The biggest number I have seen was in the hundreds, so it was only 3 digits. They probably kept it that way to keep everything simple. I know I would not have wanted to write the full body number on each wheel, and remember this was decades before bar codes were thought of. Today's tracking methods are way more advanced then what they had in the day. Duane
Thank´s Redmanf1 ! My cheat-sheet also contains AK1 which is Custom belts. But I can´t find any info about B22. Would you also know what that is ?
COPO_Anders, B22 appears to be a "catch-all" option code and means different things for different model/body numbers. It was an interior option code. The best that I can figure is it basically means the car came with door panel emblems. If you had a GS, then you got "GS" emblems, if you had a custom then you got "Custom" emblems etc...…………….., again it depends on the model numbers. The main thing you need to figure out is if this sheet is correct for your particular car. You need to match it up to the info on the ID Plate on the firewall. Of course you could also take off the driver side front fender and see if it's the same number. Otherwise you are decoding a sheet for some other car, and that is not helping you at all. Duane
Duane, Brett Slater does not have B22 on his GS-"cheat-sheet", which is the same model as mine. But maybe they didn´t always use it ? Or like you said, it might be a sheet for another car. I`ll try to pull that left frontfender and see what I can find.
"Duane, Brett Slater does not have B22 on his GS-"cheat-sheet", which is the same model as mine. But maybe they didn´t always use it ? Or like you said, it might be a sheet for another car." People wrote those sheets, not a computer. I would not expect them to be 100% uniform in nature. Framingham Mass. produced vehicles alleviated this problem, they used the front 3rd of the large GMAD Build sheets to build their shells. The sheets for the Fremont plant are also hand written, but they have more info on them and are a larger sheet. Like I said each plant coded things differently. Also, there were many times when seats and/or sheets were placed in incorrect cars. We scrapped a 70 White GS 350 Coupe, and rolled up inside the large body shop inspection sheet was one of these "Fisher Body Cheat Sheets". The Body Shop sheet was correct for the car but the Fisher sheet was not. It was for a car that was only a few cars off, and it had codes for a 70 White GSX. The correct Fisher sheet for the car was under the front seat. Duane
I must say Duane that I love this type of information, even if it doesn´t go my way. And I understand that you will have to tell certain stories repeatedly, because new people ask the same questions as other people did before them. Thank you so much Duane for teaching us ! I was suspicious about the A01 option since I thought the sideglass was clear, and it is indeed clear. A02 would have been correct since the windshield is shaded. Anyway, I could not wait so I pulled the left frontfender an hour ago and found #58 instead of the #78 I wanted to find. So there you go, wrong sheet for this car. By the way Duane, have you contacted Todd about shipping to Sweden ?
Yes, I have a book printed up and will see how much shipping is. I will let you know as soon as I can. Duane
Philip, at what factory was your car built ? And what is the week code on the TrimTag ? I´m trying to learn when they put the VIN on the front of the block.
In 70 the VIN was stamped on the deck, 71 on front of engine on drivers side. In 72 they were on the pass side stamped vertically. I am sure there were some variations to this since a "human" did the stamping.
My 70 is a pretty early build Framingham car. I don't have a pic of the trim tag with me but I want to say it's an August build, 2nd or 3rd week. I'll check it today to be sure. With a sequence number of 100984 it was early off the line. Mike I have looked on my deck and the SR is stamped between 5 and 7 but there is nothing stamped between 1 and 3. As you can see in the pics I posted above mine is on the drivers side front like a 71. Human indeed!
I know you guys are working on and decoding Stage 1 stuff but a lot of the info still applies to a GS 455. I wasn't trying to side track the thread or confuse matters.....
"Got my first real six string Bought it at the Five and Dime Played it 'til my fingers bled Was the summer of '69..." Got the info off my trim tag and it was the summer of '69. Build date is 08C which I'm assuming is the third week of August 1969. Framingham car...
