So now they want to charge one of our brave soldiers with murder..........

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by nailheadina67, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. grisby

    grisby Well-Known Member

    I just got this from my daughter who is in the Navy-this email is making the rounds in the Navy and the Corps--good reading here it is



    I received this email this morning and thought it was worth sending on to enlighten those of you with a perspective of truth that goes unrecognized by the liberal media in the USA.

    "The following is an email from my son regarding the NBC report (with embedded reporter Kevin Sites), concerning the Marine who is being investigated for "murdering" the insurgent in Fallaja. I will be sending his mail to every news program's email I can find. I find it sickening that this Kevin Sites is even allowed to be embedded with our Marines, as this isn't the first report I've heard from him that took on a decidedly unfriendly tone. My son also gave me permission to release it to anyone that wants to pass it on, as long as it remains unedited.

    Darlene,
    PMM LCPL Gus
    TS DET
    Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:27:55 -0800 (PST)
    From: old tymer <email address edited
    Subject: The stories you don't hear...
    To: lenasorry@aol.com </ym/Compose?To=lenasorry@aol.com&YY=53593&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>
    This is one story of many that people normally don't hear, and one that everyone does.
    This is just one most don't hear: A young Marine and his cover man cautiously enter a room just recently filled with insurgents armed with Ak-47's and RPG's. There are three dead, another wailing in pain. The insurgent can be heard saying, "Mister, mister! Diktoor, diktoor(doctor)!" He is badly wounded, lying in a pool of his own blood. The Marine and his cover man slowly walk toward the injured man, scanning to make sure no enemies come from behind. In a split second, the pressure in the room greatly exceeds that of the outside, and the concussion seems to be felt before the blast is heard. Marines outside rush to the room, and look in horror as the dust gradually settles. The result is a room filled with the barely recognizable remains of the deceased, caused by an insurgent setting off several pounds of explosives. The Marines' remains are gathered by teary eyed > comrades, brothers in arms, and shipped home in a box. The families can only mourn over a casket and a picture of their loved one, a life cut short by someone who hid behind a white flag. But no one hears these stories, except those who have lived to carry remains of a friend, and the families who loved the dead. No one hears this, so no one cares.

    This is the story everyone hears:
    A young Marine and his fire team cautiously enter a room just recently filled with insurgents armed with AK-47's and RPG's. There are three dead, another wailing in pain. The insurgent can be heard saying, "Mister,mister! Diktoor, diktoor(doctor)!" He is badly wounded. Suddenly, he pulls from under his bloody clothes a grenade, without the pin. The explosion rocks the room, killing one Marine, wounding the others. The young Marine catches shrapnel in the face. The next day, same Marine, same type of situation, a different story. The young Marine and his cover man enter a room with two wounded insurgents. One lies on the floor in puddle of blood, another against the wall. A reporter and his camera survey the wreckage inside, and in the background can be heard the voice of a Marine, "He's moving, he's moving!" The pop of a rifle is heard, and the insurgent against the wall is now dead. Minutes, hours later, the scene is aired on national television, and the Marine is being held for committing a war crime. Unlawful killing. And now, another Marine has the possibility of being burned at the stake for protecting the life of his brethren. His family now wrings their hands in grief, tears streaming down their face. Brother, should I have been in your boots, I too would have done the same. For those of you who don't know, we Marines, Band of Brothers, Jarheads, Leathernecks, etc., do not fight because we think it is right, or think it is wrong. We are here for the man to our left, and the man to our right. We choose to give our lives so that the man or woman next to us can go home and see their husbands, wives, children, friends and families. For those of you who sit on your couches in front of your television, and choose to condemn this man's actions, I have but one thing to say to you. Get out of you recliner, lace up your boots, pick up a rifle, leave your family behind and join me. See what I've seen, walk where I have walked. To those of you who support us, my sincerest gratitude. You keep us alive. I am a Marine currently doing his second tour in Iraq. These are my opinions and mine alone. They do not represent those of the Marine Corps or of the US military, or any other.

    Sincerely, LCPL Schmidt USMC "
     
  2. GrittyKitty

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  3. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Thanks for the link..........my wife and I both signed it. :bglasses:
     
  4. Frank Turbo

    Frank Turbo Well-Known Member

    I signed it also
     
  5. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    I can honestly say that I didn't. We have rules for war, we have to follow them whether the enemy does or doesn't. How can we be more civilized than them if we act just like them?
     
  6. stagetwo65

    stagetwo65 Wheelie King

    Who cares about idealistic crap like that when you're surrounded by people living three hundred years behind the "civilized world". I say talk to them in the only language they understand.....violence! The people who are left alive when we're done killing the rest can run whatever's left of that 3rd world pigstye they live in. Screw the "higher standard" we're supposed to be upholding! An eye for an eye!
     
  7. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    What we should have done is sniped saddam, not take credit and let them all kill eachother over it, then come in at the end and take control. Advantages: No money spent, no casualties.
     
  8. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Cody, if you were that marine and you thought he was booby trapped with a bomb that could explode and kill you and the other soldiers around you, would you just stand there and let him do it? What would you have done?
     
  9. Billy

    Billy Well-Known Member

    War is a bad thing period.

    The Big problem we have is letting every one into our country and giving them everything. Look at the economy and the certain people that come over here and do not have to pay taxes. :rant:
     
  10. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member


    He would have been one of the other 1,500+ soldiers killed because bush can't keep his priorities straight. What gives this soldier the right to sidestep all the rules that tens of thousands of others in other wars have already died to put in place?
     
  11. tommieboy

    tommieboy Well-Known Member

    Just saw the ticker-tape on Court TV. I'm pretty sure this is the guy, unless there are more of these types of cases pending.

    Soldier plead guilty to charges: 3 year prison sentence, forfeiture of all pay, dishonorable discharge.

    For those of use who have served in the military, this comes as no surprise.
     
  12. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Cody, please excuse the late reply.........I missed it.........

    What gives him the right is saving the lives of his comrades, and his own life. I don't care about anybody else but our troops lives........to H with those sick twisted commy bass turds. Have we beheaded any of them? Have we kidnapped any of their journalists and held them for ransom? I think this war will go down in history as the most costly in terms of lives lost, respect for democracy, financial cost, and human dignity.

    It's sad that the soldier tommieboy was referring to killed a child........but when they blow themselves up to kill innocent civilians and our brave soldiers I don't really care what they have to do.

    I say to send Bush's daughter's over there to fight if his war was so justified........then see how they are treated for doing their job protecting their comrades. :Brow:

    I don't want to see this thread get deleted, so please keep it clean guys.....I know what's coming :shock:
     
  13. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    The dude that confessed and got prison time was not the same soldier who's video-taped shooting of a wounded insurgent started this thread. The soldier that just got convicted shot a badly injured iraqi teenager -- not a combattant, just some poor sap in a truck who got caught in a crossfire -- because he figured he was putting him out of his misery.

    Pretty lousy judgement -- he wouldn't have done it to his own men, so why do it to a civilian? that soldier got what he deserved.

    Back to the original subject:
    It seems ironic to me that this thread is entitled "and now they want to charge one of our brave soldiers...". because, really, there isn't much brave about shooting an unarmed man cause you think he might be booby trapped.

    Bravery is what lead up to the marine entering the room. Smart is stepping back out of the room, clearing your comrades out, and reassessing the situation. (note: If he was booby trapped, how was shooting him changing that?)

    Shooting him dead cause you are afraid or mad is cowardly; doing it with cameras rolling is just plain dumb.

    The issue is that they want to charge a stupid cowardly soldier with murder, which somehow doesn't seem so out of line.

    Still sounds like murder to me.

    -- Steve
     
  14. mechacode

    mechacode Well-Known Member

    Rules are rules, everyone still has to follow them.
     
  15. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Steve, how long does it take for a crazy person to push a button on a bomb and kill every person in the vicinity? One second? Two seconds? Maybe 1/10 second?

    Then how long does it take for a team of soldiers and a few wounded terrorists to clear a room..........get my point?

    If that was your son or daughter in that same situation, given the honorable duty to defend our country, what's more valuable his/her life or that of some other person who may or may not be a terrorost?

    I say shoot first, ask questions later.......Iraq is a very dangerous place....... it's not rural America. :bglasses:
     

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