TA Aluminum Intake OR ALuminum Heads(this is for real)

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Nothingface5384, Dec 11, 2013.

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Which would you like to see made first for Purchase

  1. AL Heads

    123 vote(s)
    85.4%
  2. AL Single-plane Intake

    21 vote(s)
    14.6%
  1. ken betts

    ken betts Well-Known Member

    I have not talked to Mike about the 350 head specifically lately, but hope to have a port after the first of the year in Jan. When it is done I will give the results to Mike. One way or the other it is time for a big 350 head. This can happen with enough help from those interested. Hang in there and see how close we can get in the next 6 weeks.
     
  2. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Some heat will be needed to help atomize the fuel unless you are prepared to up your pump shot a lot to make up for all of this and you will have to have larger jets because it will need more gas. People can plug the holes if they want to go all race.
     
  3. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care


    Thanks for the "heads" up info :-D
     
  4. Gary Farmer

    Gary Farmer "The Paradigm Shifter"

    x3
     
  5. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    HEADS! Don't copy the iron heads like the iron intake was. Make them FLOW, larger valves, smaller stems, and save serious weight!
     
  6. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    I believe they will use their experience with 455 heads to make the 350 heads a very good flowing head.
     
  7. brownbomber

    brownbomber Silver Level contributor

    heads heads heads!!!
     
  8. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    If the intake is set up with injector ports and is actually used with fuel injection then the crossover ports are certainly not needed and probably not wanted. But presumably they can be plugged if they are there. So it sounds like the sensible thing to do is to at least cast the intake with the injector bosses in place, whether machined or not, and make the crossover ports so that they can be easily plugged, perhaps with a screw in type socket head pipe plug, even if the rough cast hole has to be tapped first. That way the intake can be configured however the builder wants it.

    Rover intakes angle the injector towards the valve but most aftermarket intakes today fire them straight down, which leaves more room for a 4bbl throttle body and linkages.

    Jim
     
  9. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

  10. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    An estimated timeline on either would be nice .for those planning a build soon.
     
  11. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Come on guys, we need more than 41 wanting these heads. Does anyone realize that I ran an 11.81 with just a 125 shot of nitrous with just a 500 lift cam with a 230-245 dur at.050 and my heads only flow at 235 and 176. A head that flows at about 300 will shoot us pretty far.

    You know you stock guys can use these heads too you do not have to put a single plane intake on these heads to have the car run well. You can stay basically stock and the car will run like a madman. The slightly larger 212 cam with the Alum heads will rock that car...Even with the standard TA intake.

    We have been waiting 10 years for this now lets pump it up!

    I had 395 hp from 5900-6100rpm with a TA510 cam, just think that same cam with Alum heads that flow 300 cfm instead of my now flowing 235 cfm heads.
     
  12. gsla72

    gsla72 Well-Known Member


    That's what I'm after. More power on tap if you want it, but more than enough with an otherwise mild engine.
     
  13. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    If you build it ,he will come. :pray: I'm sure there are people not on this board that will purchase these when people find out they are available. I am close to having my irons done to flow over 280 for a possible 450plus build .so now its wait and see or do without
     
  14. Willby70

    Willby70 Well-Known Member

    This is true. I've had my 1970 buick since 1998 with the 350. Put the car in storage and spent my money on "easy" toys to build. If there is no perfomance parts..ie heads, then you don't play with a small CID. Now it's 2013 about to be 2014, and there isn't a head. I've followed this site since about 2003 and joined in 2008 just to see the pics. I honesty like my Chevy's, cause I can go fast with a small block. Can't do that with iron head buick. Don't tell me to port, I don't port, I'm too lazy to do that. Becaused I'm spoiled by the Alum. chevy heads I've had...:grin:.
    Head or not, I will try to remain buick powered or just do the 455. Or the "easy" route LS1 and move on :Dou:
     
  15. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Hear that guys, forget the single plane and get those alum heads made.

    But if TA just wants to make the single plane first, it won't hurt my feelings any I will just buy it and see how well it works.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2013
  16. 69GSCAL

    69GSCAL Well-Known Member

    I've been watching this thread since it started but didn't vote until today.

    I voted heads.

    I've finally settled on the mill that will power my 60 Invicta Wagon and it's going to be a SBB 350. The plan is a full roller valvetrain, aluminum heads (if available), EFI and
    a single turbo. Due to the possibility of needing a custom intake anyhow to incorporate the EFI/Turbo/ stock hood, I voted heads.

    This project will be started next summer and take a few years to complete. However, I'd purchase the heads immediately once told they were available.
     
  17. BLUEBEAST

    BLUEBEAST Member

    I vote aluminum heads.
     
  18. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    I've always been a fan of the 350 - As we know, it's a great engine (and lighter than a SBC). My first vehicle was a 1970 Jeep Wagoneer with a factory Buick 350 and much to my dismay, I quickly found that I couldn't get a 4BBL intake. I sold my mildly built GS 350 (.030 over, Hypereutectic Pistons, Poston Intake, Hooker Headers, ported heads, KB Cam, true 10.5:1 comp., ARP fasteners, '73 Rods, balanced & blueprinted). I spent the money at the time on porting the heads and if I remember correctly, oversize valves. I even bought a BHJ Honing Plate (I still have it - I couldn't believe they had one in stock & they were probably really happy to get rid of it)...I definitely would have ponied up the $ for Alum heads at the time and this gets me psyched to get another GS 350 & build another 350 engine - I was going to sell the Honing Plate but maybe I'll hang onto it. I don't have the $ right now (wouldn't have sold the car if I didn't need the $ at the time and things aren't much better now) but might need to find the $ if these become available and let them sit until I get another car, so reluctantly I'll go ahead and vote.My initial thought too was intake, but I think the heads make more sense.

    For anyone who doesn't remember, I think Mike T. is an old (no offence Mike) 350 guy - If I remember correctly, his 350 powered '68 wagon used to be pictured inside the back cover of the old KB catalogs and I think he was running 11's back in the early 80's. I can't imagine if the heads get done that an SP intake won't follow, but can imagine the reverse if the intake were a flop and as noted in here, the intake can be made if need be and probably isn't of nearly as much use w/o heads. Of course Mike's in business to make a buck and I'm sure that despite a personal desire to do the project, he doesn't want to lose his butt on it either. As in most businesses, there are limited resources to develop a multitude of projects in the pipeline and you have to choose what's going to give you the best bang for the buck (i.e. 455's and V-6's), so be patient. Mike sounds committed to this project sooner or later.
     
  19. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    If the heads are built, please don't use Chevrolet rockers. I doubt TA would use them anyway, but I hate stud rockers. Buick shaft rockers are more durable and 100 times to take on and off. Loved the TA roller rockers I used to have, very nice pieces. Much nicer than junk stud rockers.
     
  20. ceas350

    ceas350 "THE BURNER"

    I'd like to have adjustable valve lash... Not via shims
     

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