WTB: 1970 4-speed big block driveshaft

Discussion in 'Parts wanted' started by STAGE III, Sep 12, 2022.

  1. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    Not a huge rush at all but I am giving myself options for my car.
    Started life as a 1972 so it has a peg leg 8.5 in it .
    I secured a 1970 8.2 3:64 rear (not installed) years ago so I am “thinking” in keeping with converting all 72 parts to 70 that the correct 70 driveshaft will be an easier install then any issues with the 72 driveshaft mating up to a 1970.

    Thoughts are appreciated if I am in error on that.

    I still also have a 72 8.5 3:42 (needs rebuilt) that would be a plug and play if I give up on “all 70 parts” on my car but I really do not want to invest the money on a rebuild on this money pit.

    Thank you for thoughts,suggestions or options.
     
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  2. Rocket Racer

    Rocket Racer Well-Known Member

    The 8.5" factory rear in you car or the spare 3.42 are stronger than the earlier 8.2" rear. I would put the effort into keeping the "larger" rear in the car. I speak from years of experience with these rears. :D
     
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  3. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Wouldn't a '70 Skylark 350/auto DS be the same? I'll have to check the lengths but that's what I have for my '70 GS 350 4-sp and I thought 455 4-sp was the same length. The one I pulled from one of my parts cars was a 1 pc.
     
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  4. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    A 70 4 speed driveshaft is one piece. Auto is two piece
     
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  5. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    The one I pulled out of a '70 Skylark/Auto is one piece. I guess poss it wasn't orig. or the wrong one was installed orig. but car seems pretty orig.
     
  6. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    The 4-speed driveshaft and the TH350 share same shaft as well as the same yoke I believe, 1968 through 1972 A bodies.
    ***edit*** I should explain, with Buick only. the other A bodies like Chevelle's with the "rock-crusher" M-22? use the same as the TH400
     
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  7. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Please explain??:confused::(:confused:
     
  8. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    This is a two piece. It's vulcanized together at the Axle end

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  9. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    And this is the driveshaft out of the gsx.

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  10. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    That's what I thought - 4-sp. (350 & 455) were the same as TH350. Mystery is the one-piece I pulled from a Skylark/auto (Flint car). I have 2 more '70 Skylarks here (both Freemont).
     
  11. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Ah... gotcha. makes sense. Us people in the parts world consider a 2 piece drive shaft, being a shaft that uses a slip joint to connect the two shafts. With almost always divided by a carrier bearing.
    That shaft you showed me is basically glued together and not "designed" to come apart.
     
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  12. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Hmm... and never noticed the two shafts (4-speed vs TH350) were built in a different way even though they would interchange in use.
    Learned something today!!!
     
  13. Buickcub

    Buickcub Well-Known Member

  14. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Yes,the TH350 and small-output 4-speed use the same length driveshaft and yoke.
    The TH400 and the large-output 4-speed use the same length driveshaft and yoke. The BOP 8.2” rears use a shaft that is 3/4” longer than a car with an 8.5” 10-bolt.
    Hope this all helps.
     
  15. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Just went through this as well the 70 driveshaft for my 70 GS 455 4spd is a one-piece shaft that is 56" from the center of each ujoint cap.
     
  16. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I think they used a 2 piece for smoothness maybe? Dampening some vibration?
     
  17. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    I’m possibly in the market for the same unit and coming up with an unstamped part #7804819 for 3&4 speed manual and 7806236,7806237, and 7804858 for A/T. Just out of curiosity I stopped by my friends extremely original’70 judge R/A III, 4spd.
     

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  18. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    I’ve only seen the 2-piece shafts on the low-performance,basic cars.
     
  19. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    That is my thought as well. After seeing all of this.
     
  20. Rocket Racer

    Rocket Racer Well-Known Member

    The car in my avatar was originally a 1970 W-31/T-350 car; came with a 2-piece driveshaft. We actually used the 2-piece shaft for a while, when we first started running it in F/SA, with slicks and it held up to wheel stands and low 12 sec. ETs. :eek:
     

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