To the best of my belief 68-72 manual trans levers, whether 3 or 4 speed, consolette mounted or not, were all the same. The GM number, which I do not think is on any of the sticks, was #1385629, Group 4.006.
I just got one form an Olds for a $100.00 :shock: (couldn't get a buick one) the shifter from Buick's and Old's looks the same :eek2: a new hurst shifter sell for about $250.00 why pay more then that :error: I still need the buick chrome handle
The pits are an issue as to whether it can be redone. That affects the price. Also the fact that a repro is coming out decreases price. Having said that I would be interested in taking a look if you are inclined to sell.
4-Speed Question Brett, your right!!! He is fast and knowledgable :Smarty: . As far as your shift, I work from 10:30PM-7:00AM and my visit here is my daily thing before I :sleep: AL.
Overnight shift, huh? I did that for six months when I first started my job back in 1997.....graveyard shift is NOT for everyone.... :eek2: What did Pete have to say??
4-Speed Question Scott has come threw with his super knowledge :Smarty: >>> Scott, contrary!!! You are very helpful!!! I kind of thought there only one style used in both applications, I know you are the most reliable source for 4-Speed information. Thanks AL. -------Original Message------- From: Scott Miller Date: 06/13/05 16:59:02 To: Al Yeager Subject: Re: 4-Speed Question Al, I have never owned a bench seat car, but to the best of my knowledge Buick used the same HURST shifter assy in both the bench & bucket seat cars. They only list one part number in the assembly manuals. From the 1970 Buick Assembly manual (page 7-9.1) GM # 1234417 shifter assy & lever only GM # 1385629 (HURST # 5335) From the 1971 Buick Assembly manual (page 7-12.1) GM # 1234417 shifter assy & lever only GM # 1385629 (HURST # 5335) I do not have a 1972 Buick Assembly manual. Sorry I can't be of more help on this. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Yeager To: Scott Miller Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: 4-Speed Question Scott, you may be able to clear this up, AL.>>>>>>> 4-Speed Question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Chris Cornett The shifter is also different if you have a bench seat. Chris, I think there is only one type shifter for bench or bucket. I will ask the 4-Speed specialist (Scott Miller), AL. __________________ AL 1972 GS Stage1 4-Speed 1968 Corvette 327 4 Speed 1984 Century Wagon 3.8
72 manual Al, I have a '72 manual at home. When I get there I can check the no's for you, if you don't already have one. John
4-Speed Question Pete, told me I had a replacement hurst in my GS, I knew this much and told me mine should have had the press in style, I knew this too. Well I e-mailed him back asking if there is a way to bolt in a press in style correct style shifter handle. I'll let you know what he tells me, AL.
4-Speed Question John, that will work! :beer I guess you saw the post I got from Scott. :Smarty: Thanks, let me know what you come with for 72, AL. :beer :TU:
Ah...but I DO!! From the 1972 Buick Assembly Manual (page 7-9.1) GM # 1234417 shifter assy & lever only GM #1385629 I can't find the Hurst # but I also just woke up... :sleep:
4-Speed Question John, here is his reply: Hi, I would say, no. The only way you can retain the replacement shifter you have now is to butcher an original factory handle by drilling 2 holes in it. I do not recommend damaging or altering such hard to find parts. I see old Hurst shifters damaged, rusted & deformed all the time, it would be a shame to ruin another stick. Also the angle of the 2-bolt flange of ALL of the replacement bolt on shifter bases Hurst made for GM a body cars is not the same as original equipment. If you try & butcher and rare OEM flat stick to adapt it to the shifter you have now, what you will find is that the stick is tilted over too far over to the left. When trying to put the car into reverse, in many cases the stick will actually contact the forward edge of the drivers bucket seat!! You need to remove the shifter you have now & obtain an original factory base so that the stick is positioned correctly in the interior of your car. Pete
Alternative? Hey guys, how about a Hurst chrome stick that bolts to the aftermarket Hurst shifter, but approximates the shape of the original stick. Hurst makes a bunch of them.... o No: http://go.mrgasket.com/pdf/74086G_hurst_cat.pdf
I have an old putty knife that I ground narrower to fit in there. A feeler gauge will work too if it's clean. Last one I did was nasty. Lost of penetrating lubricant & the putty knife handle allowed me to better work/tap it in.