Has anyone ever beat a 80s-90s ford mustangs with a skylark gs or anything 455

Discussion in 'Kill Stories (Where Hemis Never Win)' started by 72gsBuick, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    Is that an 830 Holley? If it is that is a very good carb. It will run with a 950 HP on most motors ( I run Bigs 950 CNC) Tune will be more important than the CFM number.
     
  2. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    its actually a quickfuel 830 cfm super street, all billet here is the link to the carb http://www.summitracing.com/parts/QFT-SS-830/ and i was actually thinking to take off the choke horn to get closer to the 900 mark..this carb still needs a bit more tuning since the offy to b4b intake swap but man does it work great..i love the adjustability on this one vs the holley.. it is lighter and matches my paint.. i still have respects to holley, as i do keep 2 spare carbs. but this one was actually pretty good priced and comes from a good company..what do you guys think on the combo i have so far, Guestimate hp torque, maybe 1/4 miles numbers asuming its running good.

    73 455 bored .30 low compression pistons
    71-72 455 heads with stage 1 valves
    b4b intake manifold
    quickfuel carb
    kenne bell aluminum roller rocker arms
    thicker 3/8 pushrods
    1 7/8 headers full length
    unknown cam, maybe stock
    th400 tranny.
    currently stock rear end non posi with 2.56 Working on a new posi and 3.42 gears.
    2400 stall converter
    stock point dist. with electronic conversion
    acell 8mm wires
    no mech fan, electric.


    the fact that the mustangs are both 5 speeds, does this make them faster at take off or higher speeds, will the 455 torque help out allot vs this engine.
     
  3. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    Nothing wrong with your carb. I only drive my car in the summer so did not need a choke. You need a good cam that works with your compression ratio (someone here will have some suggestions.)

    If you go from a roll you should take the Mustangs right now. As you know your rear end is hurting you. I would imagine that you can fry that poor tire forever right now.

    With a posi and gear you will probably run low 13's. The right cam and tuning will put you into the 12's.
     
  4. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Thanks Sailbrd. this just got me excited, racing them or not.. i still want to take on that challenge and see if i can make the car go in to the mid 13s or lower if possible..i think as soon as i get the car up and running again i can look more into tuning it for power and performance..
     
  5. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

  6. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    that was kind of my goal sailbrd..but i have a 71-72 gs 455 that i wanted fix up so i figured id skip changing the cam till i start fixing up the other engine, and now since i have a job i can start doing this..hurray:Brow:
     
  7. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    you wont need the choke... I ran my '64 rivi with a 425 down there in the winter and summer with no choke.. just had to feather the throttle 'till she warmed up.

    What are the temps like right now in sactown?
     
  8. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Not too cold or hot right now..thank god..max was about 96 as i remember. it gets cold though.. i guess i should start getting ready for the 100+ weather coming inn...:bglasses:
     
  9. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Dang it! Wish my skylark was running I would be up there on wednesday your going to sac right?I have a crew of guys from delta that races we been hitting the grudgefest's lately the next one is aug 13th!Hopefully Ill see you up there on if these days last time I went the only other buick was a t-type.Hopefully you stomp on the stangs my friend has a nasty cobra that im trying to set my car up to beat oen day.
     
  10. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    No problem, let me know when your car is ready and we can both go to the track here...i just spoke to my cousin and he does not want to race his car...i wont even bother with the stock 5.0...this is the one i was after, i guess they are scared...:Do No: :boring: guess we'll have to wait till next time..
     
  11. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Calis72..you dont need the window anymore..i have one if your interested..
     
  12. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    So went to the track wednesday and guess what, stock 5.0 broke down (starter) running 13.5 best, 13.7-14.7...did not see it pass but saw the slips. anyway cousin did not want to race, because he said he needed subframe connectors...not done yet with my car but cant wait till i have it done..
     
  13. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    He needs something and its not subframe connectors. Hint they usually come in pairs.
     
  14. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    well, i think he needs to rework his rear end, Let me guess Drag racing tires:bglasses: he uses a set of bfgs drag radials...still says he cant hook.. its either that or thats just the excuse...:bla: anways im working on getting the car back together, just got the disc brake booster, aswell as the posi so will try to mount it right away..
     
  15. dpcp66

    dpcp66 Well-Known Member

    Hay guys I live in your neck of the woods and love to put down 5.0s I have a bad 66 witha 455 and should have it ready by the AUG DATE. If not I'll bring my brothers 66 with 67 nose(trying to sell it) up if you guys will both be there. I might have parts or help if you guys need it just drop me a line been working on buicks for 15 plus years and have family thts had them an raced them for 40plus. drop me a line or call (209) 535-6968 Doug

    :3gears:
     
  16. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Well, just finished installing the posi..cant wait to take it to the track, i will need to take it to tune it the way it should be.. dpcp66.. if you want to head down to the track let me know when, i will try my best to show up there, i dont know about kalis72 but im inn, thats if i get my car down right ready.. my goal was hotaugust nights aswell, that would be good...i know there is a track down there.. either way if my car is ready or not im good to go..just say when..thanks
     
  17. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Doug (dpcp66 ) and his brother from turlock,ca..came and tuned up my car several ways... great set of guys... tons of info from them, got my car to have more power then before at midrange power, we came to a conclusion i did have a leak somewhere, and figured out that one of the mixture screws from the brand new quickfuel was bent... i noticed this when it was in the box when i purchased it from summit but thought it was just the head (these quickfuel carbs have the bigger headed adjustment screw) and did not realize this till Dougs brother took the screw out while adjusting them.. i never thought this would cause that even after the carb left the summitfloor..guess i should pay attention more when purchasing things. this thing sounds awsome like never before at around 2500-3500 rpms, tons of hidden power cant wait till its tuned 100%..could not get to that because of the carb and small radiator (350):shock: will be getting a bigger one when i head down to summit to exchange the carb..
     
  18. C9

    C9 Roadster Runner

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  19. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

  20. PistonFire

    PistonFire Well-Known Member

    I've had a couple of Mustangs; One was a '93 LX, the other a '97 Cobra. The Fox Body cars are not very fast stock, but there is a HUGE aftermarket for them. Heck, just as an example, look at a Summit catalog. They have an entire section for just the 5.0 cars. There are so many bolt-ons and kits and this and that for them that even a dummy can make one respectably fast. The Cobra's on the other hand are pretty darn quick right from the factory (high 13's in the 1/4 for the late '90s 4.6 cars if I remember right...)
     

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