Stage 1 fuel pumps

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Thumper (aka greatscat), Feb 18, 2021.

  1. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    The downside is that the diaphram may not ethanol compatible, current gas is 10%
     
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  2. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    They don't age well. The rubber diaphragm dry rots and leaks gas into the crankcase
     
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  3. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    The riveted reinforcement on the arm was eliminated on later Delco units. I have several NOS. Guessing I should hang on to them.
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes you should. I bet Jim Weise would buy them. He uses those arms in the CV Products pumps he sells. The pump is a SBC pump. Jim replaces the Chevy arm with a Buick arm.
     
  5. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    After several emails back and forth, Brandon at Trico/ASC/Airtex apparently has confirmed they don’t offer 40664 or any deep bowl Buick pump. I say apparently because he didn’t really read my questions, he just asked ‘year/make/model’ and directed me to the non-Stage pump, ignoring my query about 40664. Twice. They still offer the Pontiac M6405 but he also didn’t answer my question about swapping the arm.
    Patrick
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Got my response from AC Delco, no more Stage1 pumps.
    ACDelcoStg1PumpEmail.JPG
     
  7. DavidC77

    DavidC77 "Matilda" 1970 Buick GSX

  8. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    That’s the shallow bowl like the Delco 40927.
    Patrick
     
  9. DavidC77

    DavidC77 "Matilda" 1970 Buick GSX

    Yes but it has the 40 gph and the fuel pressure rating of 8...
    The stock fpr is only 6.5...

    So the NAPA B0180P at least gives you what the Stage One pump does...
    Yes it's not the large bowl... Would you rather have a fuel pump that will work till you might be able to find a large bowl...
    Or do you want to have your car sitting in your garage because you want a large bowl???
    Myself I'd rather be driving my car...
     
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  10. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    The NAPA fuel pump requires a new fuel line from the Pump to the Carb... As the owner of your car thats your choice.... As a shop owner thats not his choice... As a points show car.. Well now your car is just a common car..
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    So does the Airtex 41198 for 17.11,

    https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog...l+455cid+v8,1379763,fuel+&+air,fuel+pump,6256

    https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=58849&cc=1379763&jsn=420

    I agree, I wouldn't let that stop me from enjoying the car. To Bob's point, the metal fuel lines are different. You would need to find a way to extend the fuel line connection at the pump a few inches, or use a different fuel line. It is pretty easy to use a braided AN line with two conversion fittings. That would be one solution if you don't want to alter your stock line. I am sure there are other solutions.
     
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  12. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I was reading recently that there's a guy who rebuilds NOS crimped AC pumps or old AC crimped pumps. You know, like you buy an NOS pump and worry how long it will last. He opens them and puts modern rubber in them.
     
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  13. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    Just leave us in suspense Frank. Do you have a source?
     
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  14. mineseats9

    mineseats9 Gold Level Contributor

  15. mineseats9

    mineseats9 Gold Level Contributor

    That’s an old post from 2014 maybe, I have never used him but I saved the pic just in case.
     
  16. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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  18. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I'll go see if I can find the post across the hall and get a name, Dave.
     
  19. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    Ok Dave et al, yes that that's the guy. Fred's classics Fred Ballard, says he's done 1500 of them. There were pics of one, an AC one,
    I'll drag them over here when I get time. The problem he's having right now is the parts come from you know where, and he's having difficulty getting them right now.
     
  20. gsjo

    gsjo Platinum Level Contributor

    Maybe someone asked already ,but how do the rebuilt units hold up w/ todays fuels?
     

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