what motor??

Discussion in 'Wet behind the ears??' started by 64Lark, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    Are those flow master street legal? Would they be too load for police? This is a dumb question but if i order them can i take them to any muffler place and have them put them on?
     
  2. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    Well, you are in California! Many muffler shops sell Flowmaster (at least here in So Florida). I'm sure you'll find a local shop that can hook you up with sound to the extent of the law. :bglasses:
     
  3. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    I've also found a Buick 455 motor with a Turbo Transmission for $600. It says excellent working condition. What do i have to do to put this into mine? Can i just drop it in?
     
  4. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest


    No
     
  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Justin, since you're new to the wrenching thing, I'd stick with working on what you've got while you get more and more experience from it.

    Devon
     
  6. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    Well I'm not really new to it, I am building a 1915 vw engine, Im in my second year in taking classes to become a car technician and love working on anything motorwise so i wouldn't consider myself too new to it all. I was just thinking that why spend a lot on this motor to make it as fast as a 455 when i can just buy that one. So what type of things would i have to do to get that engine in?
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    That's cool, I probably should have said "the Buick wrenching scene".

    Believe me, we'd all like to see you get Buick power under that hood again. Others will chime in...I don't have experience with the 455 swap into the '64. So in that regard, I'M the one that doesn't know what he's talking about!

    Devon
     
  8. BillA

    BillA Well-Known Member

    You should seriously consider a radiator fan shroud as your next mod. Make sure it fits tight to the radiator to ensure the fan pulls air through instead of around the radiator.
     
  9. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    Do they have those anywhere or do I have to go to a junkyard or search online?
     
  10. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Don't worry about the fan shroud yet unless you find you're having cooling problems when stopped or at low speed driving. The '64 may have never had a shroud to begin with. With more horsepower in the future, it may be something that needs to be taken care of even if it's not a problem at the moment. But when that time comes, there may be other cooling system upgrades (radiator) necessary as well.

    Devon
     
  11. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    Ok so I plan on getting some flow masters, a new ignition system, and when I get all the info on the engine some headers. Is this good, should I add anything else? I'll wait on the fan shroud. Thanks again
     
  12. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    I second that :Smarty:

    You don't know if you have to open the engine or not to put in a new cam shaft:

    You need a shop to install your new muffler(s):


    But you want to swap the engine and transmission for a 455/TH400 (with all the problems involved) yourself ?
    I don't get it.........:Do No:

     
  13. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    The numbers on the back of the are a start. The casting numbers on the left side of the engine in the back would be the block casting number. An example would be: 3970010. There should also be a casting date on the back of the block, usually on the opposite side of the casting number location. It would read something like this: E 12 5. This particular example would mean the block was cast on May 12, 1975, or possibly 1985.

    Once you find what year the block was cast, take a look on the top of the block on the machined surface directly in front of the right side cylinder head. This will be behind your alternator. There should be a date and engine code there as well. The main concern is the engine code itself, which will be the last three letters at the end of the build date. An example of this would be: CKL. If you can find these numbers, post them here and I will decode them for you.

    This information will only indicate what the engine originally came out of, and with that info you will be able to find the horsepower, torque, compression ratio, etc. related to it. Of course, if it has been rebuilt then it's anybody's guess.

    Bill
     
  14. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    I found block casting number which is 3970Q10 or 3970010. I can't find the others because of a dirty and hot engine. Ill let it cool down then go try to see them. Thank you
     
  15. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    Bad Boattail, I said I wasn't TOO new to wrenching. That doesn't mean I know everything, like I said before Im going to school to learn. Yes I don't know if I have to open the engine because I am building a VW engine and those you DO have to, but Im sure you know that too huh? And I didn't mean open, I meant like take the engine out and tear it down. I don't know if you can only change the camshaft. Again Im learning. And I wouldn't swap the engines myself Ill take it to school and have help from my teacher and other classmates. I meant will the shop be willing to put on mufflers that they didn't sell to me, of course I know that they would have to put them on. Get it now?
     
  16. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    I think the engine code is VO1
     
  17. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    3970010 means it's a 350. The V01 is only part of the code. It's longer than that. V means it was built in the Flint, MI engine plant, 01 is the month of assembly. In this case, January.

    You should find two more numbers which would indicate the day of the month, followed by the 3 digit code. It may read something like: V0123CNJ. This is just an example but it would break down like this: V=Flint plant, 01=January, 23=23rd day of the month, CNJ=1970 Camaro 350/300hp, 3 or 4 speed.

    Keep looking, you'll find it.

    Bill
     
  18. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    It has 144775 in small letters and then VO1O then something that I can't make out, then either a C or an O, then I think an N then a V. heres a pic
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  19. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    We're getting closer. Before the 144775 there should be a number and a letter, like 1F144775.

    Bill
     
  20. 64Lark

    64Lark Active Member

    I can't see it, I can barely see the 144. What do those letters mean?
     

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