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Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Mark Demko, Jul 16, 2023.

  1. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    I have put the race gas in from day 1. as you see hear the timing at 33 is about as far as you can go putting in the race gas does not mean you can bump up the timing. Most of the time my timing is at 32 I have it at 34 rt now and don't hear anything. I lock it up in 3rd gear and step on it some and listen for it so far good . this last time when I went out I bout 5 gal of 93 and put a gallon of race gas in seems ok with that. I have some lead substitute I bought of Amazon couple years ago may try some of that, got a case of it.
     
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  2. Chuck George

    Chuck George Well-Known Member

    So are these the gaskets to use? Rock Auto has them. $9.97 a set. I bought a set of the Hookers when they were being liquidated, surprised the middle bolt hole was already notched.
     
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  3. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I’ve used em before with iron manifolds, they work fine, this is the first time I’ve used em with headers, so far so good.
    I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t hold up except if a bolt gets loose and allows the flame to burn thru, but that happens with the best headers gaskets.
     
  4. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Here's some handy info.

    Please note that using any higher of a Octane level then the motor needs to not detonate will on,y serve to cut into power levels and slow down the rise of rpm.
     

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  5. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    WOW!
    It’s not as great a boost in octane as I figured!
     
  6. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    We use 110 Leaded race gas those numbers will be a little higher.
    All I can say I have used the race gas for over 25+ years with 10.6 comp 5 gal with 15 gal of gas and all has been good. Yeah you put 110 race gas in a 9.6 motor and it will go slower. When I first went out after cam change the valves would rattle if I pushed on the gas too hard, I went back home put in the race gas and that quit making noise. But that timing was too high also I had to back that off 38* back down to 33*
     
  7. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Race gas does not make you put more timing in it just slows down the explosion from going early. Timing usually stays the same.
     
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  8. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    When things are right It’s not a explosion, it’s a burn!
    At the fastest rate seen in a race motor were talking about some 120 mph.
    A Dynamite explosion for example is about 2000 mph.
     
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  9. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    If it explodes that's a problem.
     
  10. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    It was the only word I could come up with in a hurry had to hit the road, jeeze.
    Throw a match on gasoline it doesn't burn it goes boom! explodes! really guys.
     
  11. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    tough crowd! :)
     
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  12. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    You should try it because that's wrong.
     
  13. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    No, gasoline puts out matches. Really guys, I've seen it.

    Jim
     
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  14. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    IF the match makes it to the liquid gas and not ignite the vapor before:D
     
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  15. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    This is interesting, burn, boom, explodes, goes out. So what is pushing that piston down I'm confused. :D:confused:
     
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  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Lolol, if you pour gasoline on the ground and light it it ignites, “technically” it doesn’t explode, BUT under compression like in an engine, it goes boom bam thank you ma’am,
    I’ve always heard the combustion process referred to as “controlled ignition” or something similar.
    Either way, I need more push on my pistons to get into the 12s :p:p
     
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  17. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    It's all just semantics. What is ignited is gasoline vapor, and upon ignition via spark plug we hope it burns rather than detonates (explodes) on its own, thus detonation. The vapor is able to be ignited and burn because the gasoline molecules are getting friendly with O2 molecules in air.

    Yes, one can extinguish a lit match in liquid gasoline. While doing so be careful not to ignite the gasoline vapor at the surface of the liquid as Mark mentioned.

    Devon
     
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  18. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Once knew a guy who regularly put out his cigarettes in a ash tray with gas in it...
    'course he was a little nuts.

    Jim
     
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  19. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

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