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No what gets me riled up is when people like yourself start talking trash about someone when they havn't even put the car down the track. And its not about taking out the vettes personally i think mrs pennington and the other are great drivers and no one should talk trash about them either. I think everyone should keep there mouths shut untill the car goes down the track , then if and I say again IF the car goes really fast and gets torn down and doesn't pass then you have every right to say what you want. to speculate about some numbers on a dyno you heard about come on we all know dyno readings very dyno to dyno and who knows if there true. I mean honestly with all the things said about tear down and what not at the upcoming events why in there right mind would you risk looking like a fool building a FAST motor and trying to pass it off as pure stock.
Don't judge someone untill there is good reason then choose your word wisley

 

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I like that Torino in the background!

 

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First off, I never made any remarks to the driving ability of the L-88 drivers. They all seem to be great tuners and drivers. But getting back to my original post about the valve spring pressures at the Martin race. Certain people were running extreme valve spring pressures. Just ask the guys who did the tech on the car. And there is a few P/S racers who can vouch for some of the other items that I mentioned, but they choose to be silent. So my point was if certain people went to that degree on building a purpose built car for the race, it also showed how much disrespect they have for the organizers, spirit of the events, and the other participants. With that kind of attitude the rules dont mean jk st to them. They look at it as, RULES ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN. And have you seen certain people jump in here on the discussion, hell no, and you wont. Because they know they got busted with the first purpose built car. But because a few did protest, oh Im sorry WHINED, they werent able to achieve theyre goal either. Now you say stop your bitchin until we see the Hemi go down the track. You wont see the full potential of that car until the pair up on Saturday at either event. And if they break the P/S sound barrier of 11.49, they dont care if the track management stops them. As long as they beat the record of low et theyre mission was accomplished. The June event cant come fast enough.

 

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Certian racers have been seen with an aluminum block when they were not supposed to have them also in another series.So thinking there might be issues with another car might not be so far fetched as well as other cars at the front of the pack.After all it is called PURE STOCK not NHRA Stock or FAST

 

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Thanks Mr.CJ, I forgot about that incident. Well lets ask Mr. Dudek to jump in here and tell us what he found. He tech. the car and tried to use a magnet on the block. Rumor is it didn't want to stick. Then he was showed where to put the magnet and I guess it did stick a little. And what about the engine being moved back an inch or so?????? That's the kind of s--t that totally pisses everyone off. They should of been banned from FAST and P/S racing forever as far as I'm concerned.

 

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The last couple of events Rick`s car has been teched thoroughly. Only a hand full of FAST cars have been pulled aside and were asked to pull out the distributor, remove VC`s, remove carb, etc,etc.. Rick`s car was teched, he passed tech and ran 10.20`s@134..


Also i mean no disrespect to anybody here, honestly.. His Pure Stock Firebird did fail the valve spring test at Martin, keep in mind the rule was changed that year (i think?). After the Martin race he switched the springs and the car did not slow down.. He made it right!! As far as his new RR being purpose built? What does that mean? We all seen the pictures and he put the undercoating back on, seem sealer, etc.. What else is there?

Assuming he`s even fast enough to get teched at Martin, Rick`s new RR will be teched and probably right along side Bob K`s car, my car, Key`s car, etc.. If any of us are illegal we won`t be racing, period. Right now i`m burned out beyond belief with this stuff, please respond but i`m logging off for a while.. See you guy`s at the track!!! and nobody worry were gonna make an honest effort with tech this year. Good day

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The last couple of events Rick`s car has been teched thoroughly. Only a hand full of FAST cars have been pulled aside and were asked to pull out the distributor, remove VC`s, remove carb, etc,etc.. Rick`s car was teched, he passed tech and ran 10.20`s@134..


Also i mean no disrespect to anybody here, honestly.. His Pure Stock Firebird did fail the valve spring test at Martin, keep in mind the rule was changed that year (i think?). After the Martin race he switched the springs and the car did not slow down.. He made it right!! As far as his new RR being purpose built? What does that mean? We all seen the pictures and he put the undercoating back on, seem sealer, etc.. What else is there?

Assuming he`s even fast enough to get teched at Martin, Rick`s new RR will be teched and probably right along side Bob K`s car, my car, Key`s car, etc.. If any of us are illegal we won`t be racing, period. Right now i`m burned out beyond belief with this stuff, please respond but i`m logging off for a while.. See you guy`s at the track!!! and nobody worry were gonna make an honest effort with tech this year. Good day

 

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I was told at a race the fall before it did not pass magnet inspection and they left when asked to pull the dist.

 

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Thank you Mr. Dudek for the information on the valve spring pressures. But your dodging the aluminum block question for some reason. I heard the same story as Mr. CJ and from others who were at the race. Because the magnet didnt stick very well to the block they were asked to pull the distributor. They refused loaded the car up and left the track. Is there any truth to that story Mr. Dudek? Please enlighten the FAST/PS group with what really happened

 

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WTF is with you two having such a hard on for Rick?! I believe everyone currently racing in FAST is well aware of the incident with Rick's block, so there is no story to tell. There have been many guys showing some "creativity" in FAST. Some of the incidents have been well known, others less so. Hell, there was even one guy blatantly running an automatic in a car that by rules should have been a 4 speed. Oh the scandal!

If Rick's new car goes out and runs the number, then the powers that be will tech it. Until that time, let it go!

 

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I don't race in FAST so I don't know the issues with his Firebird or the other cars that you talk about that have been "creative." One could also infer that "creativity" is cheating. If a racer is "creative" in FAST (aka cheating) one could also infer that they are also willing to cheat in pure stock.

 

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Jeff, call me if you want to

 

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I agree with Jeremy.Let it go fellas,there is no prize. I enjoy the company of these people,and feel it is better with them,than without them. If you think this race is about the cars,your wrong.Its about the people.Bottom line,no prize money,you still race a car that runs within a hundreth of you.Enjoy the race,enjoy the people, and just get past it.There is still only about 140 people who even race every year!! If you cant enjoy it,stay home!

 

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amen to that!

 

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Whatever any of you choose to build, go ahead, I'll be there to watch. But what always gets me is that for a engine (HEMI) that is so bad GOD created it on the eight day (HAHA), it sure seems strange that you have to go to such great lengths when you built it. If it is the END ALL, BE ALL that we are to believe, why can't you just use a ridge reamer, some old bearings left over from one of your buddies 440 rebuilds, lap the valves with one of them old wooden lapping sticks and some valve grinding compound, wipe the cylinders down with some 80 grit crocus cloth, have a big beer bash, and put that Bad Boy together, and go outrun anything and everything with an oval or bowtie on it? My Gosh, you're driving KING KONG! Now to be serious, the HEMI is a great engine, right up there with the best of the supercar era. With everything EQUAL I think it can make just as much horsepower as anything Ford or Chevrolet made, and it may make just a little more, but certainly not enough more to just throw out vehicle weight, chassis, suspension, etc. I would like to see the cars stay closer to stock because I don't want to see a 12,000 RPM 283 cu. in. Chevy show up in a Nova, and neither do you or the rest of the crowd. This racing is just too much fun to let a few egos kill it.

 

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Hey Guys, I am going to put this one to bed.

We can speculate for the next few months if the Hemi is legit, but we'll see it at Martin and the car will be teched hard and then we will know for sure if Rick is a duck..........

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